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Lol dude, just read the 'Pedia article. It's worth it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_(processor)
The 16-core proc will be for servers and easily cost you upwards of $1000 .
...But at least we'll have consumer available 16-cores, which will likely be a good sign.
Having a quick browse through that looks more promiseing what Intel has to offer right now.
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post #12 of 16
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After looking fairly closely at Bulldozer's projected specs, it will have a faster memory controller, possibly as fast as Sandy Bridge's, but that's about it.

Bulldozer's 8-core will be about the equivalent of a core i7 with Hyperthreading I think. Why? Because the 8-core is really only 4 hardware cores with two dedicated "threads" each, and AMD has made no moves to claim competitiveness against Sandy Bridge but rather "affordability" and a higher core count as forms of compromise.

AMD is back to its sneaky marketing schemes; they tend to attract the cheap noobs who just want something new. I also sincerely doubt Bulldozer will be able to overclock like SB. But, only time will tell... BD should be under 4 months away.
Talking of noobs, did you get all your info from this source by any chance?
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post #13 of 16
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After looking fairly closely at Bulldozer's projected specs, it will have a faster memory controller, possibly as fast as Sandy Bridge's, but that's about it.

Bulldozer's 8-core will be about the equivalent of a core i7 with Hyperthreading I think. Why? Because the 8-core is really only 4 hardware cores with two dedicated "threads" each, and AMD has made no moves to claim competitiveness against Sandy Bridge but rather "affordability" and a higher core count as forms of compromise.

AMD is back to its sneaky marketing schemes; they tend to attract the cheap noobs who just want something new. I also sincerely doubt Bulldozer will be able to overclock like SB. But, only time will tell... BD should be under 4 months away.
No..... 8 core is 8 cores, that's it no sneaky marketing involved at all. In fact the only people who need to worry about modules are the engineers programming that stuff.

Also I honestly think you're the cheap noob. Remember, AMD did have it's glory days with the TBird/Duron/Athlon, and Intel was pretty much QQ'ing. But granted now Intel has AMD beat. BUT Intel also had to resort to some shady Anti-trust practices in order to surpass AMD in the first place.
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post #14 of 16
Its worth waiting to see which is better.
If you need a computer before early june you cant go wrong with SandyBridge.
I need an upgrade sooner than BD is coming out so im going over to SB, but I wish I could wait and see what Bulldozer offers.

Warning to greeneyesofgod:
Just making claims and not backing them up wont get you anywhere on here. You may be able to pretend you know about computers on Facebook or at work but on OCN just saying things without any knowledge to back it up will get you laughed at. This is a forum of people who know computers so making claims that are obviously ignorant will get you nowhere seeing as 99% of the community knows you are making it up.
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A "core" is just another way of saying execution units. A core executes and does the math of all the commands that you take part in. Saying a core is not a core just because the architecture has changed doesn't make it so.
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After looking fairly closely at Bulldozer's projected specs, it will have a faster memory controller, possibly as fast as Sandy Bridge's, but that's about it.

Bulldozer's 8-core will be about the equivalent of a core i7 with Hyperthreading I think. Why? Because the 8-core is really only 4 hardware cores with two dedicated "threads" each, and AMD has made no moves to claim competitiveness against Sandy Bridge but rather "affordability" and a higher core count as forms of compromise.

AMD is back to its sneaky marketing schemes; they tend to attract the cheap noobs who just want something new. I also sincerely doubt Bulldozer will be able to overclock like SB. But, only time will tell... BD should be under 4 months away.
Lies. There are real 8 cores but 4 modules. That means 2 cores share their cache (a module is really just to say 2 cores are using combined cache). Atleast that's what JF-AMD posted.
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