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Originally Posted by GAMERIG View Post
Whoever can tell me, what *FX* stand for?

this is for AM3 or AM4?

it seems me that AMD give up their favorite color *GREEN* and had changed the color red as ati

Thanks in advance.
Here's a little history lesson on AMD's FX series:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ault,1204.html

If you read on to page 2, you will see how much these used to be priced at, back then, they were top of the line DUAL Cores, and were out before Intel's C2D's.

About what FX stands for:
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Athlon 64 FX
The Athlon 64 FX is positioned as a hardware enthusiast product, marketed by AMD especially toward gamers. Unlike the standard Athlon 64, all of the Athlon 64 FX processors have their multipliers completely unlocked. The FX line is now dual-core, starting with the FX-60.[57] The FX always has the highest clock speed of all Athlons at its release. From FX-70 onwards, the line of processors will also support dual-processor setup with NUMA, named AMD Quad FX platform.

Edited by 2010rig - 3/18/11 at 3:23pm
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Now games just have to start supporting +4 Cores and AMD has this market as long as the performance is twice it has been for the past years.

Can't wait for my filthy overclocking hands to get a grip on one of these chips!
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People seem to forget the main reason that the Thuban's lagged seriously behind Intel's hexa-core and it wasn't just hyperthreading. In order to keep the cost down and stay in their market of offering price/performance processors, they did not increase the cache on the hexacores from the quad cores, effectively meaning you had six cores having to share the same amount of cache that was running on a Phenom II X4 (which was already lacking compared to the i series Intel processors). I'll be very eager to see how much cache L2/L3 cache they put on these bad boys. And AMD really needs to come up with something comparable to hyperthreading if they want to come close to Intel. I am in no way an Intel Fanboy btw, look at my graphics card...
That is exactly what AMD has done with BD. Each module is 2 integer units and a single floating point unit that is shared between the two integer units. The OS bases its core count on integer count so that is why we are hearing 4, 6, and 8 cores. Most are assuming it is 8 full blown cores that will be competing against, lets say, Intel's 4 core/8 threaded cpu's. Amd's approach isn't the same but it is still 8 semi-cores just as intel's is 8 semi-cores when you turn on HT.

Intel's cores are like 1.5 cores when HT is on. Amd's are more like 1.75 cores per module or per 2 integer units. Amd's module system isn't all that unlike intel's HT, just a different approach at achieving the same or, hopefully better results. The die space, power requirements, and cost is probably not too much different than implementing HT as well.

HT can be horribly inefficient at times, let's hope this module approach willi be HT done right, so to speak.
Edited by Strat79 - 3/17/11 at 10:19am
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Lol, if the FX-series is priced anything like they were back then, I seriously foresee a flop.
It's going to be priced to compete with SB, at least that's what I got from AMD's slide.
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I wonder how much power that thing drains and how much heat it will produce on full load. ( and just how far can it be overclocked ?)

other than that I wants one.
    
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not to mention, a 6 core processor that only barely(I'm using this word very loosely)being able to catch up and compete on par with intel quad cores is not exactly an achievement. if 8 core FX processors only match 2600k CPUs in performance I will seriously lol @ AMD
You don't understand the different routes both companies are taking. You can't compare cores to cores anymore because AMD has redefined the core with bulldozer.

-With Intel you get 4 big cores each with a thread.
-With AMD you get 8 integer cores, 2 cores that share resources and fit into the same die space as 1 Intel core.
-Bulldozer is whole new architecture... that should tell you something about the performance increase.
-Even if a 8 core bulldozer beats a 2600k people like you like still complain that's its not fair to compare a 8 core to a 4 core without understanding the differences between the architectures, your still stuck on the "core vs core" mindset.

Also doesn't the 2600k beat the higher priced 980x at times? Does that make the 980x a bad processor even though it has 2 more cores?

Finally, yes right now there is now point to buy a PhenomIIx6 when Intel has the 2500k for basically the same price. Hell no point to buy AMD unless your building your grandmother a $300 PC with an AthlonIIx2.
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Now games just have to start supporting +4 Cores and AMD has this market as long as the performance is twice it has been for the past years.

Can't wait for my filthy overclocking hands to get a grip on one of these chips!
It's 4 a module cpu.
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Also doesn't the 2600k beat the higher priced 980x at times? Does that make the 980x a bad processor even though it has 2 more cores?
Yes, it does considering it is ~5 times the cost.
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Yes, it does considering it is ~5 times the cost.
Math fail.

More like ~3 times the cost.
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Math fail.

More like ~3 times the cost.
More like literacy fail. I read 2500k instead of 2600k. In which case would be like 4.x times the cost.
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