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Wierd thing is, I was benchmarking for a bit on Fire Strike just now, and the board / CPU run fine on 5.3Ghz (52x102) with 1.512v. Can bench just fine on it.
But, Prime95 reboots the board in udner 5 seconds though..


When you run prime95 are you doing the 90% RAM usage too?

ps I've learnt about a new bit of software... need to download GPU-Z now haha smile.gif

pps... nice desktop background!
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Hehe custom WIndows with a true OCN wallpaper some member here made biggrin.gif

But, scratch that, I just made 5.4Ghz with 1.600v. Also broke 10k in fire strike tongue.gif
So wierd how I can bench at 1.6v, but stress at 1.45v is boom. Dafuq...

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post #10273 of 10701
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Originally Posted by Imprezzion View Post

Hehe custom WIndows with a true OCN wallpaper some member here made biggrin.gif

But, scratch that, I just made 5.4Ghz with 1.600v. Also broke 10k in fire strike tongue.gif
So wierd how I can bench at 1.6v, but stress at 1.45v is boom. Dafuq...


I'm jealous of your temps! Watercooling looks very attractive smile.gif

Have you tried down clocking your ram to make sure its not stressing the processor more than it should? So setting it to 1.5v and a lower frequency?
post #10274 of 10701
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Originally Posted by Imprezzion View Post

Hehe custom WIndows with a true OCN wallpaper some member here made biggrin.gif

But, scratch that, I just made 5.4Ghz with 1.600v. Also broke 10k in fire strike tongue.gif
So wierd how I can bench at 1.6v, but stress at 1.45v is boom. Dafuq...


Saw that one earlier today on tweakers.net in Holland smile.gif You've got a golden 7970 GPU sample if I see how you can push the limits.
Edited by rows - 5/14/13 at 7:02am
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So now im stable at 4,6Ghz,but not happy.

My settings are:
BCLK: 100Mhz
Ratio: 46x
CPU PPl Overvoltage Disabled
All CPU limits on max
DDR3 frekvency: 1600Mhz

LLC: Very High
DIGI+ VRM Frekvency: Auto
VRM spread spectrum: Enabled
CPu current capability: 130%
DIGI+ VRm Phase control: Manual (Super fast)
Duty Control: Extreme

CPU Voltage: Fixed 1.385
VCCIO: 1.10625
CPU PPL: 1,7125
DDR3 Voltage: 1.65V
CHA CTRL: +630
CHA DATA: +630
CHB CTRL: +630
CHB DATA: +630

But this is not what im aiming through,i want at least 4,8GHz,but even now on this ratio,my Voltage in CPU-Z is showing something between 1.389-1.004 that i consider too much for this ratio.But if I lower the Vcore in BIOS i doesnt get stable.Temperatures aren´t a big deal i think 85°C in stress blend test using 90% RAM and AVX2 set is ok,for gaming,barely seen more then 55°C.
Im starting to be rly desperate about this chip.Any tips which can come handy plz?
post #10276 of 10701
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Originally Posted by LuckyPlumule View Post

So now im stable at 4,6Ghz,but not happy.

My settings are:
BCLK: 100Mhz
Ratio: 46x
CPU PPl Overvoltage Disabled
All CPU limits on max
DDR3 frekvency: 1600Mhz

LLC: Very High
DIGI+ VRM Frekvency: Auto
VRM spread spectrum: Enabled
CPu current capability: 130%
DIGI+ VRm Phase control: Manual (Super fast)
Duty Control: Extreme

CPU Voltage: Fixed 1.385
VCCIO: 1.10625
CPU PPL: 1,7125
DDR3 Voltage: 1.65V
CHA CTRL: +630
CHA DATA: +630
CHB CTRL: +630
CHB DATA: +630

But this is not what im aiming through,i want at least 4,8GHz,but even now on this ratio,my Voltage in CPU-Z is showing something between 1.389-1.004 that i consider too much for this ratio.But if I lower the Vcore in BIOS i doesnt get stable.Temperatures aren´t a big deal i think 85°C in stress blend test using 90% RAM and AVX2 set is ok,for gaming,barely seen more then 55°C.
Im starting to be rly desperate about this chip.Any tips which can come handy plz?

Hi Lucky sorry I missed your previous post yesterday during my other reply's my phone mustn't have updated properly tongue.gif

I would say on these chips 4.8 may be a limit for some. You've no doubt seen this link before: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578110 but not a great deal of these chips can go that high. Also there's the indication that the vCore volts you have for 4.7 is still good in comparison!

The only few settings I'd notice and possibly are that you enable PLL overvoltage on these higher clocks, however be warned it does increase temps and in my honest opinion your temps are high (for my personal liking!) but your call.

Lastly I would highly recommend changing the VRN frequency from auto to 350 as per the link I sent it helps with overclocking (at any clock!)
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@ Luckyplumule...
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Hi Lucky sorry I missed your previous post yesterday during my other reply's my phone mustn't have updated properly tongue.gif

I would say on these chips 4.8 may be a limit for some. You've no doubt seen this link before: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578110 but not a great deal of these chips can go that high. Also there's the indication that the vCore volts you have for 4.7 is still good in comparison!

The only few settings I'd notice and possibly are that you enable PLL overvoltage on these higher clocks, however be warned it does increase temps and in my honest opinion your temps are high (for my personal liking!) but your call.

Lastly I would highly recommend changing the VRN frequency from auto to 350 as per the link I sent it helps with overclocking (at any clock!)

I would have to say that enabling PLL overvoltage is pretty inevitable for any clock over 4.5GHz. Durden is correct that it will raise your CPU temps noticeably as it (if I have this incorrect please let me know) keeps the voltage at a constant feed rather than just providing it when needed to enable "turbo" mode. This is over say having a "multiplier" overclock with C1-C6 & EIST enabled which throttles down the voltage and processor speeds in order to save power consumption and prolong life of the components. Durden is again correct that all chips are most definately different. I was able to achieve 4.8GHz on a multiplier overclcock while leaving all the power states at auto which seems to be the exception rather than the rule. I have since pushed my chip to 5.1GHz with very little tweaking. I'm most likely going to shoot for some higher clocks this weekend biggrin.gif Your temperature range is a bit on the high side for 4.6GHz in my opinion as well. Forgive me if you've already posted it but what kind of cooling method are you using? I had the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Evo and never budged up over 72c on a Prime95 15hr run. Changing over to water cooling has dropped that down even further as I did not want to attempt 5GHz without it. I don't have a custom loop or anything it's just a Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme all-in-one unit but it does justice by me. Food for thought anyway. Keep us posted on the progression.
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post #10278 of 10701
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Hi Lucky sorry I missed your previous post yesterday during my other reply's my phone mustn't have updated properly tongue.gif

I would say on these chips 4.8 may be a limit for some. You've no doubt seen this link before: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578110 but not a great deal of these chips can go that high. Also there's the indication that the vCore volts you have for 4.7 is still good in comparison!

The only few settings I'd notice and possibly are that you enable PLL overvoltage on these higher clocks, however be warned it does increase temps and in my honest opinion your temps are high (for my personal liking!) but your call.

Lastly I would highly recommend changing the VRN frequency from auto to 350 as per the link I sent it helps with overclocking (at any clock!)


Well,my wall should be the 5.0Ghz,cuz it will boot all on auto,changing the ratio (not turbo) to 50 and it boots with 1.544Vcore and it gives me an BSOD 124.
I used manual VRM frekvency on 350 or on auto,no offense,there is rly no impact on stability,since i push Vcore to 1.425 in BIOS its stable,no matter what i set on the rest of the options,Im able to get stable on PPL Overvoltage on or off,the temperatures are almost the same,difference is about 2-5°C its not that much IMO.Tested Enabled or Disabled options and its the same,not stable under the 1.425V.
I guees a got rly bad chip,now playing with the PPL Voltage and so far,im able to run OCCT blend test with 90% RAM using AVX.temperatures are at 92°C max.
I got C1 disabled now,ESIT enabled and C3 and C6 got no matter on stability on my board,tested both settings again if im lower then 1,425Vcore unstable,when i push it higher im stable.Its kinda weird.
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I would have to say that enabling PLL overvoltage is pretty inevitable for any clock over 4.5GHz. Durden is correct that it will raise your CPU temps noticeably as it (if I have this incorrect please let me know) keeps the voltage at a constant feed rather than just providing it when needed to enable "turbo" mode. This is over say having a "multiplier" overclock with C1-C6 & EIST enabled which throttles down the voltage and processor speeds in order to save power consumption and prolong life of the components. Durden is again correct that all chips are most definately different. I was able to achieve 4.8GHz on a multiplier overclcock while leaving all the power states at auto which seems to be the exception rather than the rule. I have since pushed my chip to 5.1GHz with very little tweaking. I'm most likely going to shoot for some higher clocks this weekend biggrin.gif Your temperature range is a bit on the high side for 4.6GHz in my opinion as well. Forgive me if you've already posted it but what kind of cooling method are you using? I had the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Evo and never budged up over 72c on a Prime95 15hr run. Changing over to water cooling has dropped that down even further as I did not want to attempt 5GHz without it. I don't have a custom loop or anything it's just a Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme all-in-one unit but it does justice by me. Food for thought anyway. Keep us posted on the progression.

I've been looking more and more towards water cooling, but think I will opt for an SSD first smile.gif What temps are you seeing now since you moved over to water cooling?

Also what voltages did you manage to achieve your clocks at? I've not had time recently to tweak my clock however I don't think I'll be able to go much above 4.6 (maybe 4.7 at a push) since it took around 1.370 volts to get me 4.5. frown.gif
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@ Luckyplumule...
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I would have to say that enabling PLL overvoltage is pretty inevitable for any clock over 4.5GHz. Durden is correct that it will raise your CPU temps noticeably as it (if I have this incorrect please let me know) keeps the voltage at a constant feed rather than just providing it when needed to enable "turbo" mode. This is over say having a "multiplier" overclock with C1-C6 & EIST enabled which throttles down the voltage and processor speeds in order to save power consumption and prolong life of the components. Durden is again correct that all chips are most definately different. I was able to achieve 4.8GHz on a multiplier overclcock while leaving all the power states at auto which seems to be the exception rather than the rule. I have since pushed my chip to 5.1GHz with very little tweaking. I'm most likely going to shoot for some higher clocks this weekend biggrin.gif Your temperature range is a bit on the high side for 4.6GHz in my opinion as well. Forgive me if you've already posted it but what kind of cooling method are you using? I had the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Evo and never budged up over 72c on a Prime95 15hr run. Changing over to water cooling has dropped that down even further as I did not want to attempt 5GHz without it. I don't have a custom loop or anything it's just a Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme all-in-one unit but it does justice by me. Food for thought anyway. Keep us posted on the progression.

As i stated to Durden,i dont need the ppl Overvoltage,once i got to 1.425V in BIOS for 4,7Ghz its stable,it doesnt rly matter,what i set on other options,its just stable for how long i want.
As i said in prev Quote to durden, No matter the C states its ok even if I disable all or leave it auto or Enabled,no impact on stability.I got EIST function Enabled all the time.
I can set CPU Ratio on 50x and all auto will boot and hold about 20mins 90% blend test vith 1.544Vcore,but it goes BSOD 124 or 101.Most likely i got the BSOD 124.
My cooler is Corsair H100,push-pull config,dont know why,my temperatures are so high compared to others using this cooler,maybe its because the H100 is placed down at the bottom of case (NZXT Phantom) and my pipes goes around the CF 7870.

U guys think that because im running CF 7870 and using all 4DIMMS slots can cause that higher voltages needed and temperatures spikes?

If u need any screens,let me now,i rly dont understand,how can this chip boot at 1.360Vcore at 4,7Ghz,but not beeing able to at least 101BSOD at this voltage,but if im starting to get this 101BSOD (voltage on core) i need to push it so high that i get stability at 1,425BIOS(1,440Vcore CPU-Z) or even more.

I dont wonna be only negative,but link posted by Durden i have read this about 1é times,for case im rly missing something,I have read about 100 more guides,i tested to adjust adition turbo votalges too,nothing rly get me stable,I can simply say,if im on lower VCore any hard test such as Prime95 with blend test 90% RAM only for prime,that means im using 7,2GB of ram only for prime95 gets me to BSOD 124 sometimes imidietly sometimes after 15hours prime95.OCCT acts somehow the same,but its able to get me stable post more often and with lower Vcore.

For my 4,8GHZ i need Vcore about 1.472-1.504 tested this scales and all working ok.
I just think,my chip is rly bad.

EDIT:
Now im testing with AIDA 64 using all of my RAm:

CPu Ratio 48
PPL Overvoltage Disabled
Memory Frekvency 1600MHZ 9,9,9,27 1,65V (default values on RAM sticks)
All CPu limits eliminated

DIGI+ VRM settings are:
LLC on Ultra HIgh
VRm frekvency 350
Duty and Phase control on Extreme
CPu current Capability 100%

Cpu Vcore fixed 1.425V
RAm DDR 3 1.65V
VCCIO 1,11825 V
PPL Voltage 1,75V
CHA CTRL,CHA DATA,CHB CTRl and CHB DATA at +630V
CPU spread spectrum disabled
EIST enabled,C1 enabled, C3 and C6 Auto

my temperatures in AIDA 64 (newest extreme version got the license) are highest 81°C,testing and stressing all the harddisk,GPU,CPu,Memory.
Interesting think is,that i dont get stable in systetic tests,like Prime or OCCT,but if I use LINX program im stable even at 1,406Vcore and aida same.
So what is it,that Prime95 and OCCT are testing,that it pushes the computer to fail to state its stability?

I have read what is BSOD 124 and default state for BSOD 124 is that something is working over or under its designed speficication,I have also read,that 124BSOD on Sb can be the Vcore,VCCIO or PPL voltage,but as I said,i tested my stability like this:
Setting CPu ration,setting the digi+ options to recommended all over the whole internet and then i set ma RAm to speficication and from this point i let all Auto and try boot.
Then i set manul VCore starting with 1.320Vcore and 48multi,boot and test.
If error,i tried to incrase the VCCIO and tested all values up to 1,25V.
Same with PPL voltage trying from 1,7-1,9V.tested every values together at wanted Vcore,nothing,so i increases the Vcore by notch and did the same,took me 9weeks,still not get any results.
Edited by LuckyPlumule - 5/15/13 at 7:58am
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