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Originally Posted by munaim1;14319852 
Thanks bud biggrin.gif





Wow that's good, but I would stop right there until you can get better cooling.
Anything above 56x(+) multi is considered very rare, see how far you can get but I would not recommend doing that without watercolling atleast.

On that note I JUST found that I could do 57x multi with my chip.

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I might put it up for sale and just get the 2600k, I think i'm done pushing my chip to the limit with water, I don't really see myself doing phase or LN2 anytime soon, therefore it might be ideal for someone else.

I will not go watercooling for my system. I ran watercooling in 2004 - 2005 I believe. But not in later times. And I won't bother doing it more.

My goal right now is a stable 5GHz on air with HT-off.

Good luck selling that golden chip. Hopefully you will get a good deal of money for it thumb.gif You've already done what can be done with it.

Also, if you go 2600K, I hope you get a good one wink.gif
    
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Originally Posted by turrican9;14320004 
I will not go watercooling for my system. I ran watercooling in 2004 - 2005 I believe. But not in later times. And I won't bother doing it more.

My goal right now is a stable 5GHz on air with HT-off.

Good luck selling that golden chip. Hopefully you will get a good deal of money for it thumb.gif You've already done what can be done with it.

Also, if you go 2600K, I hope you get a good one wink.gif

Thanks bud good luck to you too thumb.gif

I hope I can get one that can do 5ghz with less than 1.5v with HT on lol (ideally less than 1.45v) biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by munaim1;14320055 
Thanks bud good luck to you too thumb.gif

I hope I can get one that can do 5ghz with less than 1.5v with HT on lol (ideally less than 1.45v) biggrin.gif

Well, with your watercooling it should be possibe. Mine does 4.8GHz at about 1.4v full load Vcore with HT-ON. But increasing after this, I have to disable HT because of temps. So far it seems fine at 5GHz HT-Off in the 1.440 - 1.464v Vcore range, under load.

Tested a little bit at 5.1GHz HT-Off. Will probably require closer to 1.5v Vcore under load.

Also, I'm getting tired of those 12 hours + Blend runs. So instead I will just do my usual Custom 6000MB and 5 minutes per FFT instead of 15 minutes. And will run it for 4 - 5 hours. 4 hours with 5 minutes per FFT will equal to the same amount of FFT's as 15 minutes per FFT for 12 hours.

I will make two profiles in bios. One for 4.8GHz with HT on and one for 5GHz and HT Off. I'm getting the same temps on both settings, even with the Vcore difference. Shows how much more Wattage HT Draws.
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Originally Posted by turrican9;14320160 
Well, with your watercooling it should be possibe. Mine does 4.8GHz at about 1.4v full load Vcore with HT-ON. But increasing after this, I have to disable HT because of temps. So far it seems fine at 5GHz HT-Off in the 1.440 - 1.464v Vcore range, under load.

Tested a little bit at 5.1GHz HT-Off. Will probably require closer to 1.5v Vcore under load.

Also, I'm getting tired of those 12 hours + Blend runs. So instead I will just do my usual Custom 6000MB and 5 minutes per FFT instead of 15 minutes. And will run it for 4 - 5 hours. 4 hours with 5 minutes per FFT will equal to the same amount of FFT's as 15 minutes per FFT for 12 hours.

I will make two profiles in bios. One for 4.8GHz with HT on and one for 5GHz and HT Off. I'm getting the same temps on both settings, even with the Vcore difference. Shows how much more Wattage HT Draws.

Been kinda persuaded to keep my golden sandy lol so the next thing I step up to from this is mostly likely going to be Ivy. Enjoy your 2600k bud. biggrin.gif
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Is it okay to run the voltages said below on a 2500k for 24/7 at 5.0ghz? And what I mean by 24/7 is my computer is just on that long, it's not a folding rig. Only time it sees a decent amount of load is during games. It's set at 1.485v in bios, idles at 1.5v, and under prime95 it's at 1.488v. As for my temps, I idle low 30s, and the full load (in prime) is mid 60s. It's currently under water.

Also, would changing the llc lower that difference in voltage between load/idle? It's currently set at ultra in the bios settings.

And yes the power saving features are enabled, so it drops to 16x multiplier when idle, but the voltages are still the ones previously said.
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Is it okay to run the voltages said below on a 2500k for 24/7 at 5.0ghz? And what I mean by 24/7 is my computer is just on that long, it's not a folding rig. Only time it sees a decent amount of load is during games. It's set at 1.485v in bios, idles at 1.5v, and under prime95 it's at 1.488v. As for my temps, I idle low 30s, and the full load (in prime) is mid 60s. It's currently under water.

Also, would changing the llc lower that difference in voltage between load/idle? It's currently set at ultra in the bios settings.

And yes the power saving features are enabled, so it drops to 16x multiplier when idle, but the voltages are still the ones previously said.

24/7 safe voltages are not really discussed on here because it has created a HUGE confusion as to whats right and what's wrong, therefore I ask that no discussions for that matter are on this thread, however, I stated this in the first page of the thread, take it as you will:

No one is absolutely certain of what the safe vcore is for the new sandybridge chips. What I can tell you is that many say the max safe vcore for these chips are 1.3 region, however, intel states that the max 'VID' is 1.52 and many say that around 1.4 if your on air and 1.45 should be the max if your running water cooling. Personally I will not go above 1.5v for 24/7 with these chip but that is totally upto you. The main thing to understand is that 'YOU' have to come up with the conclusion of what the max is. That way no one is blamed if the chip degrades (none reported so far, even with so called 'high 1.4+ vcore')

Please remember that not all chips are the same, some can do high overclocks with low voltage some cannot as you can see in this this thread and many others.

LLC is there to compensate the vdroop, lowering the LLC will widen tha gap between idle and load voltage. I believe that is the best your going to get it. If you use Extreme level (100%) LLC it will more than likely spike way higher than what you set it in the bios, therefore I recommend keeping it at Ultra High.

I fyou want the voltages to drop along with your multiplier you must use the Offset method.


Hope that helps thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by munaim1;14322855 
24/7 safe voltages are not really discussed on here because it has created a HUGE confusion as to whats right and what's wrong, therefore I ask that no discussions for that matter are on this thread, however, I stated this in the first page of the thread, take it as you will:

No one is absolutely certain of what the safe vcore is for the new sandybridge chips. What I can tell you is that many say the max safe vcore for these chips are 1.3 region, however, intel states that the max 'VID' is 1.52 and many say that around 1.4 if your on air and 1.45 should be the max if your running water cooling. Personally I will not go above 1.5v for 24/7 with these chip but that is totally upto you. The main thing to understand is that 'YOU' have to come up with the conclusion of what the max is. That way no one is blamed if the chip degrades (none reported so far, even with so called 'high 1.4+ vcore')

Please remember that not all chips are the same, some can do high overclocks with low voltage some cannot as you can see in this this thread and many others.

LLC is there to compensate the vdroop, lowering the LLC will widen tha gap between idle and load voltage. I believe that is the best your going to get it. If you use Extreme level (100%) LLC it will more than likely spike way higher than what you set it in the bios, therefore I recommend keeping it at Ultra High.

I fyou want the voltages to drop along with your multiplier you must use the Offset method.


Hope that helps thumb.gif

Sorry, I didn't realize you wanted to stray away from that topic. I read quite a bit of the thread, but I've read so many it's hard to keep track. I actually took your 5.1ghz settings you listed and put them as my settings but with the 50x multi, although the only thing I really used was the voltages other than vcore.

I realize that all chips are different, but I guess my question was more geared towards the people with the higher voltages, wondering if they run it at those voltages 24/7. I see yours is because you have it listed, but yeah smile.gif

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Load-Line Calibration: Ultra High is usually best.
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
CPU Current Capability: 140% it's safe don't worry! lol

Vcore: Work your way UP from 1.368v and continue upping as you up the multi.
DRAM Voltage: STOCK
VCCSA Voltage: Auto
VCCIO Voltage: Try increasing that to 1.125v (It's recommended to stay under 1.2v)
CPU PLL Voltage: try between 1.65v -1.75v (around 1.7v seems to be the sweet spot)
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled (apparently helps stabalize the vcore a little)
VCCSA: Auto

If you can boot in to windows with 48x multi then, PLL overvoltage is not really needed, only use pll overvoltage when you cannot boot into windows when you pass a particular multi.

C3 and C6 Report: Disable if your using Offset voltage
C1E and EIST: Enabled (Let it downclock when the overclock is not needed, it can help overall temps and the longitivity of your CPU.

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I was under the impression that C1E has to be disabled in addition to C3 and C6 if one is using offset voltage. My CPU already runs at 1.6Ghz when idle. What would C1E do?
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Sorry, I didn't realize you wanted to stray away from that topic. I read quite a bit of the thread, but I've read so many it's hard to keep track. I actually took your 5.1ghz settings you listed and put them as my settings but with the 50x multi, although the only thing I really used was the voltages other than vcore.

I realize that all chips are different, but I guess my question was more geared towards the people with the higher voltages, wondering if they run it at those voltages 24/7. I see yours is because you have it listed, but yeah smile.gif

Thanks for your input, and this thread has helped a lot!

The guys that have posted on here with their results are either running these for 24/7 or not im not sure, but the thread states "POST YOUR 24/7" so they must be lol.

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Originally Posted by nezzarix;14323028 
I was under the impression that C1E has to be disabled in addition to C3 and C6 if one is using offset voltage. My CPU already runs at 1.6Ghz when idle. What would C1E do?

If I remember correctly C1E/EIST is what reduces the multi and downclocks the overclock when it's not under load. I believe I have it enabled in the BIOS, however I can turn it off using realtemp in the OS and it won't downclock to 1.6ghz anymore, On that note I have EIST still enabled.

Through Realtemp if I disable EIST and keep C1E enabled the overclock still downclocks.
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If I remember corrently C1E/EIST is what reduces the multi and downclocks the overclock when it's not under load.

Odd, I already have that without C1E. I'll turn it on and see what happens biggrin.gif
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