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I'm not saying that there is a problem with my RAM modules. I'm saying that perhaps adding more MB just increase the probability of instability more than necessary, unless you run a server that uses 80% of the total RAm. Using 80% or 90% of RAM is just insane for a regular PC that probably its never gonna use more 50 or 60 percent of RAM. You are raising your Vcore to perform a test that is very unlikely to happen in real everyday usage.
If you want to do it is your call. Personally i think that 1600Mb is quite enough for System stability in a normal every day usage.
I understand what your saying but stability is hugely subjective, for example leaving a 10/20 tabs open and playing bfbc2 with fraps will surely drain the avaiable RAM, that for someone could be everday usage.

Taking that into account I find that being able to stay stable for scenerio's like that, decreases your chances of getting any kind of bsod, therefore 110% stability, which might be overkill to some but desirable for plenty of people.

On that note, those that have passed the blend run at 1600mb are stable for how they run their rig, for example, gaming 24/7 bfbc2 with no problems, however, it 'may' not be stable for high ram usage scenerio's which could be unlikely for some as they won't have be running fraps and have 10/20 tabs open in the background because that's not how they run their rig.


So bottom line is stability is subjective and I might actually think about how we can take this thread forward, either high usage RAM scenerio's (custom blend with available RAM) or standard blend test, which I personally ran and have not had a single BSOD even with fraps running at the background with BFBC2, not tried the 20 tabs open thing, but don't see a point of that lol.

That's not how I run my rig and most likely not a lot of people would. So we'll 'review' this whole custom thing and we'll take it from there.
Edited by munaim1 - 7/27/11 at 6:59pm
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It just rebooted itself again dammit!! 1.408v now then.. coolest temps I've ever seen too. Maybe I need more psu? I dunno, only running gtx260.
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I'm completely agree with you. In terms of stability more is better, but like you say is subjective to what you do with your system.
Just now i did the 34 tabs in chrome and barely reach 2.65Gb and the CPU is between 5-10% usage. And playing GTA IV my entire system uses no more than 3Gb with peaks of 100 on one core.
Please don't get me wrong, i understand when somebody needs the feel to use a 110% stable system, because he uses his system to work or stuff. And thats fine.
I wont do another run of blend, because i feel is more than necessary the 13 hours i already did.
My point is that maybe the rule of using 90% of RAM to blend should be optional.
Edited by cba1986 - 7/27/11 at 8:03pm
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I'm completely agree with you. In terms of stability more is better, but like you say is subjective to what you do with your system.
Just now i did the 34 tabs in chrome and barely reach 2.65Gb and the CPU is between 5-10% usage. And playing GTA IV my entire system uses no more than 3Gb with peaks of 100 on one core.
Please don't get me wrong, i understand when somebody needs the feel to use a 110% stable system, because he uses his system to work or stuff. And thats fine.
I wont do another run of blend, because i feel is more than necessary the 13 hours i already did.
My point is that maybe the rule of using 90% of RAM to blend should be optional.

Once you have done a 12hour+ blend whether it be custom or standard blend, there won't be a need to run it again and im pretty certain that you won't get a bsod that relates to unstability of your overclock.

There will be different opinons about this whole stability issue, so before I come to a final decision on which to do, I will change the rules back to what they were.

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Tried a 1344 but all windows in prime say worker starting. CPU load goes to 100% but prime takes no memory, doesn't stop responding but won't close and doesn't show me anything. Any ideas? Confused me just now.
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1. 12 HOURS+ STANDARD BLEND or CUSTOM BLEND with ATLEAST 90% of YOUR AVAILABLE RAM used

***Check with task manager/performance tab/physical memory for how much AVAILABLE RAM you have***
***To do Custom BLEND and JUST change the amount of RAM from 1600 to 90% of your available***



2. MUST have a screenie WHILE UNDER LOAD with your OCN name (notepad etc), CPU-Z 1.57.1 or *1.58* and REALTEMP 3.67 ONLY!!

***REALTEMP must show the duration of how long it's running!!!***
***Z68 GIGABYTE MUST ALSO SHOW EASYTUNE6 (last tab - hwMonitor) FOR VCORE***



3. LIST YOUR COOLING (notepad etc) and provide screenie of RAM, VOLTAGE, MOBO INFO via cpu-z and TASK MANAGER.

***TASK MANAGER only if your running custom blend, make sure you show Prime95 process.***



4. Must have a mild overclock 4ghz+



*************FINAL RULE*************
All submissions must follow a similar template like this! (This is mine before a few rules got amended)



All workers must be visible (hit the windows tab (between options and help) on prime and select tile)


IF YOU ANY PROBLEMS WITH THESE RULES PM ME OR POST IT HERE



This is it!!! Should keep both sides happy, general stability users and extreme stability users, end of the day both are still stable for what they use there rig's for, atleast it is some form of stability testing. Do which ever suits you for your needs, however, im certain that both will be stable for anything.

Happy stress testing !!!!

EDIT: Don't worry guys im not changing it anymore
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I don't want to start a flame war. That's no my interest, i like when a forum evolve a make things more interesting. That's is way i join Overclock.net

But like you say stability is subjective. Many people differ abot the how long or how much RAM is necessary to make system stable.
Personally i will stick with this setings because it work well so far. Fingers Crossed, hehe.
Maybe you can make it optional and add a column when the amount of RAM used.

Thanks for all your efforts to mantain this club running.

EDIT: Now to make sure, tomorrow i will run Memtest to discard Mem issues.
EDIT 2: I just see the new rules, forget about i said before.
Edited by cba1986 - 7/27/11 at 8:30pm
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Tried a 1344 but all windows in prime say worker starting. CPU load goes to 100% but prime takes no memory, doesn't stop responding but won't close and doesn't show me anything. Any ideas? Confused me just now.
What are your bios settings? Try running a standard blend test and see how far you get.


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I don't want to start a flame war. That's no my interest, i like when a forum evolve a make things more interesting. That's is way i join Overclock.net

But like you say stability is subjective. Many people differ abot the how long or how much RAM is necessary to make system stable.
Personally i will stick with this setings because it work well so far. Fingers Crossed, hehe.
Maybe you can make it optional and add a column when the amount of RAM used.

Thanks for all your efforts to mantain this club running.

EDIT: Now to make sure, tomorrow i will run Memtest to discard Mem issues.
EDIT 2: I just see the new rules, forget about i said before.

No worries, It's now optional however this is just the stable club, whether you go for, a standard blend or a custom blend you are stable for what you use it for. That being said, I don't think another colunm is needed. stability is stability for your own use. If standard doesn't work for you, then go ahead and do a custom blend, that's the way I see it.

No flame war's here lol, my only intention is that everyone is happy with their stable rig's and for me to help them get it there
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I had an old version that was on my memory stick. It runs it fine now. I may have done a typo on 1344 or something earlier.
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The reason I reacted with regards to Blend and how much RAM one should use, was a post by a guy (don't remember if it was this thread though) who had ran the regular 1600MB preset for 12 hours + with no problem, or at least I believe that's what he said (Not sober yet ). He had 8GB RAM in his system. And when he then tried to run Blend with the custom 6000MB (The one I always use), he failed the test.

But the thing is, I believe he said he also failed tasks like video encoding and stuff, even if he had ran the regular 1600MB preset. It MAY be other reasons for this though. Like for instance, he could be having some C3/C6 issues and crashed when not constant load....

So it MAY actually be that the 1600MB preset really is enough.. ? If in general people who have ran this are stable in everything?

I however will still use my 6000MB preset.
    
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