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Here's my buddy's machine. Just passed him via Remote desktop! Woke up with the baby and came online to check on it! It made it.



Forgot to add that room temp was 80 most of the time I haven't seen it hit more than ~81c when the ac is on usually at 75. It's on an automatic time based setting. And it was set on 80f most of the day. I called him and had him remotely turn ac on for a little less than half of the test.
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sintricate, nice load temps.
What, do you have the stock fans on the H80 or have you replaced them with a single fan or dual push/pull?


Using the stock fans with that ultrakaze3k pointed at the H80. For stress testing purposes, I left the side panels open as airflow isn't this the best feature on this case.

I think I'll be needing new fans for my H80 though because they seem to be leaking oil...
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BIOS template added for your overclock, thanks for the share bud


sintricate


You have now been added to the list, sorry about the wait.


Deltanine

Added to spreadsheet, thanks to all that have contributed.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by munaim1 View Post
Spreadsheet Update

I have created a new sheet for BIOS templates, it could be a reference point to other's including oneself and a quick 'copy and paste' whenever required in other threads/posts etc.

Those that have posted their stable systems please spare a few minutes of your time to do this. One more thing, these are the ones im after:
  • Main BIOS page (The advanced settings main page)

  • Full AI tweaker Page including DRAM Timing control

  • CPU Configuration Page

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Originally Posted by munaim1 View Post
One more thing........

Need to ask a small favour from you guys, now that you have your overclock stable, it would be greatly beneficial to ALL 1155 users on this forum to post your results in THIS thread.

It's a free to edit spreadsheet that allows you to input your data in and I would appreciate it if you guys could take a look and spare a couple minutes to fill it in.

It also helps non SB users to have a look at which 1155 mobo's are currently doing well and which are more popular than others.

MUCH APPRECIATED


Spreadsheet contains voltage info, temperature info, cooling info, BIOS templates and seperate sheets hava been created for all of those, including one which filters the i5 and i7. This should be helpful to SB users and those looking to get SB, it also helps provide real world data regarding how the coolers are performing, what temps people are getting with the overclocks and at what kind of votlages, I think that it s a great addition to OCN and one that SB and non SB users can benefit from.


Thanks to all that contributed to this thread and spreadsheet, would not have been possible without you guys


We currently have just over 90 members and we are looking for MORE


SO GET POSTING GUYS BUT REMEMBER TO FOLLOW THE RULES!!!!


And again thanks to all those participated, we have some excellent club members here!!!!






**PLL VOLTAGE INFO**

I been recently testing something for the last few days and that is PLL voltage. In the first few instance I've find that lowering actually helps stability for some cpu's, now it seems that more and more are actually trying it and results have been great.

Just 2 hours ago I recommended fuloran1 who was having having stability issue's for last few days to try the following thing:


Quote:
Originally Posted by munaim1 View Post
they are all on deafult I pressume?

What I want you to try is, decrease the PLL voltage to around 1.7/1.71v and test for stability and record what happens, then I want you to increase the PLL voltage to around 1.89v and again see what happens. The objective is to see whether or not your chip like high PLL or low PLL voltage, then we'll take it from there.

From having continous BSODS at the 7/8minute of the 1792 FFT he tried many things without success. He tried the above method and changed PLL voltage to 1.71v.


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Ok, so now I didnt get a bsod, but a worker failed at 8 minutes. Raised pll to 1.89 and testing.
Progress!!!!! No bsod and worker failing can be an indication of near stability. Dropping the PLL certainly helped.


Here's another instance, Roksonixx kept failing the 1344 FTTs and then after trying the same thing:

Quote:
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it might just be pure luck but i've put my PLL voltage down to 1.7v and vcore down 4 notches and im 10 minutes into those bloody 1344 fft's ....

fingers crossed! if i can get this to work i'll update my "stable" score in your thread

After a few minutes:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roksonixx
i tried a few above 1.8 and down to 1.75, but i've just tried 1.7 and it's worked wonders...20 minutes into that damn test, with a nice low vcore now....

it's rather strange that a high voltage can throw things off, with vcore it doesnt matter if you're 0.01 or 0.1 above, it still works because it has "enough"

i'd recommend putting 124 bsod's on your thread to "too much / to little PLL voltage", because that's certainly what's happened here


Seems like PLL voltage does make a difference. He could be right in saying error 124 could correspond to PLL voltage as oposed to VTT (VCCIO) and vcore. This is a good find.!!


Again:

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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
As I mentioned earlier, I had a goal of finally passing Prime95 Custom @ 1344K using 7168MB (exactly 7GB) of memory for 30 minutes. Well, after a bunch of trials and errors, I finally did it! I stopped my test at 33 minutes because I just couldn't wait any longer.

http://home.comcast.net/~twocables/33Minutes%21.png (1680 x 1050)

I'm sorry for forgetting to include my name in Notepad, but I was a little bit too excited. So, let's just go by the date and time on the Taskbar for now.

Anyway, what allowed me to do this was dropping my CPU PLL Voltage all the way down to 1.70000V which seems to run at 1.693V - 1.696V (that is, after testing several different CPU PLL Voltages).
Yet more proof that, reducing PLL voltage is the way forward for getting the system stable.




Please read the above about CPU PLL voltage
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So my last experiment failed after several hours of blend so I decided to do some auto-tuning to see what they board itself suggested for stability. It slowed my RAM a bit and reset the BCLK to 103 then went through a series of multipliers, it got really really high on CPU voltage so I stopped the process eventually. Anyway, I left the BCLK at 103 and manually set the multilier at 46. I left everything else where the board suggested during auto tune.

LLC = UltraHigh
VRM = 350
Phase & Duty = Extreme
CPU Current Capability = 140%
DRAM = 1.65v
VCCIO = 1.15
CPU Spread Spectrum = Enabled
C1E = Enabled
C3 = Auto
C6 = Enabled

At 46 multiplier and BCLK at 103 I'm getting 4739.3 MHz and it seems stable after a couple hours BUT.... THE VCORE THEY WANT ME TO RUN (with Auto VCORE) IS 1.528!!!

Surprisingly, my temps are staying below 80c but my question is this. Does this tell me what my CPU needs to run stable or do they push it way beyond where it needs to be during autotune in order to run stable?

This is key to know because if my processor needs this much juice to run stable I'm gonna back way off on the multi and just try for something stable in the 43 or 44 range.
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So my last experiment failed after several hours of blend so I decided to do some auto-tuning to see what they board itself suggested for stability. It slowed my RAM a bit and reset the BCLK to 103 then went through a series of multipliers, it got really really high on CPU voltage so I stopped the process eventually. Anyway, I left the BCLK at 103 and manually set the multilier at 46. I left everything else where the board suggested during auto tune.

LLC = UltraHigh
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Phase & Duty = Extreme
CPU Current Capability = 140%
DRAM = 1.65v
VCCIO = 1.15
CPU Spread Spectrum = Enabled
C1E = Enabled
C3 = Auto
C6 = Enabled

At 46 multiplier and BCLK at 103 I'm getting 4739.3 MHz and it seems stable after a couple hours BUT.... THE VCORE THEY WANT ME TO RUN (with Auto VCORE) IS 1.528!!!

Surprisingly, my temps are staying below 80c but my question is this. Does this tell me what my CPU needs to run stable or do they push it way beyond where it needs to be during autotune in order to run stable?

This is key to know because if my processor needs this much juice to run stable I'm gonna back way off on the multi and just try for something stable in the 43 or 44 range.
Sorry to disapoint you but software overclocking is a complete dud, usually has ten times more votlage than you need and doesn't do a good job. The way forward si the BIOS.

Head over to the OP and check the spreadsheet and start off from a low number like 4.4/4.5ghz with the lowest possible vcore there and work your way up. It's time consuming but in the end you will each a good stable overclock.

On more thing try decreasing PLL voltage to 1.7v, enabling spreadspectrum, run both C3 and C6 Report on Auto and make sure C1E and Speedstep is Enabled.

Also take look at other bios in the bios template section.

It could help.
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so being on the edge of stability is a rather annoying thing, i've been up all night testing various things and i've come to the conclusion that none of it works....

i can overvolt everything except vcore, boot into windows, and be fine for 45minutes on the hard ffts,

i can then reboot, change NOTHING, and bsod 124 within the first minute,

even putting everything on auto and lowering the phases makes no difference, but 2 bumps in vcore makes it rock solid

meh, i guess i'll just have to live with the fact that i need more vcore

i've yet to test with manual voltage, so it could just be that prime is bringing out the bsod because of the negative offset
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so being on the edge of stability is a rather annoying thing, i've been up all night testing various things and i've come to the conclusion that none of it works....

i can overvolt everything except vcore, boot into windows, and be fine for 45minutes on the hard ffts,

i can then reboot, change NOTHING, and bsod 124 within the first minute,

even putting everything on auto and lowering the phases makes no difference, but 2 bumps in vcore makes it rock solid

meh, i guess i'll just have to live with the fact that i need more vcore
Dude your not getting the point of the hard FFTS, it's been pointed out that running each of them for 10/15mins should be enough for a 12hour+ blend. Your doing custom tests with just those ffts for longer, ofcourse it's going to fail and that's what your doing unintentionally.

That's like running IBT for 1000 runs on 100% stable system, it will fail at some point.

Just do me a favour and run those FFTS (1344 & 1792) for no more than 15mins each and then run a 12hour blend and call it a day, no need to go OCD stress testing.
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i don't run them for hours on end, i do 2x passes of the 1344, and 2x passes of the 1792, sometimes it bsods in the first minute, sometimes it bsods just before completing the run,

if i can make it bsod by stressing it, then it isn't stable...

edit: it's not that the workers stop either, it usually bsod's
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i don't run them for hours on end, i do 2x passes of the 1344, and 2x passes of the 1792, sometimes it bsods in the first minute, sometimes it bsods just before completing the run,

if i can make it bsod by stressing it, then it isn't stable...
NO your doing it wrong, the objective is to make it stable not to make it fail and that is what your doing.

1min of each cycle 1344 and the same with 1792 for 15 mins each is more than enough. These particualr FFTS are quite brutal sandy so runnign them twice or for more than 15mins is unnecessary. You have to draw the line on stability somewhere.
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Sorry to disapoint you but software overclocking is a complete dud, usually has ten times more votlage than you need and doesn't do a good job. The way forward si the BIOS.
I was hoping thats what you were going to say. Thanks!

BTW - luv the new "post bios settings" idea. Thats really gonna help us rookies.
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