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Thanks for all the memtestx86. I can't go higher than 1600Mhz without errors, however i got my timings to 8 8 8 24 so far.
Which set of GSkill ram are those?
The blue one? PC12800 8-8-8-24 1.500V default?
or the 9-10-9-28 version?

The SB in particular, the memory timings won't make much difference.
But the speed (1600 to 1866) makes difference. (unrar-ing, compressing, rendering, loading to ram)
So instead of going better timings, you really want to shoot for higher speed even if you loosen more timings.
Have you loosening more at 1866? like 10-11-10-28/33 with more dram voltage and vtt?
Also you can loosen the other timings, too.
You could try putting tRRD - 7, tWTR - 7, tRTP - 7, tFAW - 33.
They can usually make the dram voltage down with minimum speed loss with them at those value.


Munaim1:
btw how did you manage to make your ram to go 1866 with Cas8?
I'd like to know what your all ram timings are.
Edited by Tunagoblin - 8/26/11 at 9:50am
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Which set of GSkill ram are those?
The blue one? PC12800 8-8-8-24 1.500V default?
or the 9-10-9-28 version?

The SB in particular, the memory timings won't make much difference.
But the speed (1600 to 1866) makes difference. (unrar-ing, compressing, rendering, loading to ram)
So instead of going better timings, you really want to shoot for higher speed even if you loosen more timings.
Have you loosening more at 1866? like 10-11-10-28/33 with more dram voltage and vtt?
Also you can loosen the other timings, too.
You could try putting tRRD - 7, tWTR - 7, tRTP - 7, tFAW - 33.
They can usually make the dram voltage down with minimum speed loss with them at those value.


Munaim1:
btw how did you manage to make your ram to go 1866 with Cas8?
I'd like to know what your all ram timings are.


dude, can you explain some of what the other timings do?
i going to start ocing my ram tonight, and if i go to adjust those i want to know what i am adjusting before i touch them.
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dude, can you explain some of what the other timings do?
i going to start ocing my ram tonight, and if i go to adjust those i want to know what i am adjusting before i touch them.

Here
is the brief explanation of the memory timings.
Usually you don't have to touch other than the main 4 numbers and the dram voltage and vtt.
But some case that you might need to loosen some other timings to make the dram down or go higher speed.
Memory OC is much harder than CPU OC. Since you just have to find the sweet spot of your ram with all the timings of combinations.
If you really want to get into RAM OC, just to let you know it takes 10x more time than CPU OC (SB OC, which is by far the easiest chip to OC than any other chips since you don't mess around with FSB).

btw, you already got the 1866 cas9. You trying to 2133 with 8GB?
Good luck with that..... I can't make mine there. It is really hard to make 8G of 2133 stable.
But you got mushkin so it has a potential...
Edited by Tunagoblin - 8/26/11 at 10:05am
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Here
is the brief explanation of the memory timings.
Usually you don't have to touch other than the main 4 numbers and the dram voltage and vtt.
But some case that you might need to loosen some other timings to make the dram down or go higher speed.
Memory OC is much harder than CPU OC. Since you just have to find the sweet spot of your ram with all the timings of combinations.
If you really want to get into RAM OC, just to let you know it takes 10x more time than CPU OC (SB OC, which is by far the easiest chip to OC than any other chips since you don't mess around with FSB).
sweet, dude. thanks for the link.
yeah, i was going to devote tonight to seeing how low i can get the timings at 1866.
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sweet, dude. thanks for the link.
yeah, i was going to devote tonight to seeing how low i can get the timings at 1866.
Just what I said on the other post, the timings on SB ram won't make much of difference.
Look at this chart for different timings.
It makes bare minimum difference between cas 7,8, and 9.
Almost no difference.
You may be able to tighten the timings but that certainly makes it unstable or gives you more heat due to more vtt dram that it needs to keep the timings with bare minimum gain.
But I'd do the other way. Loosening timings till you get lowest VTT and DRam you can go with 1866.
That is more beneficial to the system overall than squeeze the tight timings with no gain with more heat.
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Which set of GSkill ram are those?
The blue one? PC12800 8-8-8-24 1.500V default?
or the 9-10-9-28 version?

The SB in particular, the memory timings won't make much difference.
But the speed (1600 to 1866) makes difference. (unrar-ing, compressing, rendering, loading to ram)
So instead of going better timings, you really want to shoot for higher speed even if you loosen more timings.
Have you loosening more at 1866? like 10-11-10-28/33 with more dram voltage and vtt?
Also you can loosen the other timings, too.
You could try putting tRRD - 7, tWTR - 7, tRTP - 7, tFAW - 33.
They can usually make the dram voltage down with minimum speed loss with them at those value.


Munaim1:
btw how did you manage to make your ram to go 1866 with Cas8?
I'd like to know what your all ram timings are.
I got these.
http://www.ebuyer.com/264750-g-skill...2800cl9d-8gbxl

So if i push for 1866, what are the best timings i might get away with? I was thinking 10-9-10-20something.
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Munaim1:
btw how did you manage to make your ram to go 1866 with Cas8?
I'd like to know what your all ram timings are.
My stock RAM timings are 7-8-7-24 1.5v 2x 2GB. I can overclock them to 2133+ at 9-10-9-27 1T with 1.65. Not played around with the RAM a lot.

the 2GB density allows for more overclocking capabilities, the 4gb modules tend to not like the tighter frequency without a massive voltage bump.

Guys please read the OP regard the RAM or check this thread out:
Overclocking & Choosing RAM for Sandybridge H67/P67/Z68




EDIT:

One more thing speed and tight timings will ONLY be noticible in benchnig.
Edited by munaim1 - 8/26/11 at 10:34am
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I got these.
http://www.ebuyer.com/264750-g-skill...2800cl9d-8gbxl

So if i push for 1866, what are the best timings i might get away with? I was thinking 10-9-10-20something.

Try 9-10-9-28, if not try 10-11-10-28.
Cas number has the most impact on the speed.
And the rest is minimum difference but it affects the stability.
Set the 1T or 2T to Auto and see what the mobo sets it to.
And set it manually after you know what it sets to.

Start from going up vtt 2 notches above what you have and go down (or up) from there.
Also start the dram from 1.600 and go down from there.
Edited by Tunagoblin - 8/26/11 at 10:44am
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My stock RAM timings are 7-8-7-24 1.5v 2x 2GB. I can overclock them to 2133+ at 9-10-9-27 1T with 1.65. Not played around with the RAM a lot.

the 2GB density allows for more overclocking capabilities, the 4gb modules tend to not like the tighter frequency without a massive voltage bump.

Guys please read the OP regard the RAM or check this thread out:
Overclocking & Choosing RAM for Sandybridge H67/P67/Z68


Oh that's right. I forgot that you had 4G.
But it's sweet that you can keep cas8 with 1.5v.
Yeah... it seems like mine needs way more than 1.65v to get to 2133.....
btw, I finally got SSD!! Now it minimizes the BSOD restart time!! I'm fully suicide run ready now!
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my dram is 1.5 now, so i am hoping that i can do some serious damage before i get to 1.65.

and yeah munaim1, i understand that it means nothing in regular use but, hey...i caught the benchmark bug.
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