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It does seem thatcertainly, with Asus mobo's, that the lowering of the PLL has had a positive effect on stability. Now whilst every chip is different so are the mobo's, whether they be by BIOS or whatever, the PLL voltage is only a recommendation that I think you should try, it may work for you it may not.

When working with things like this, yes you are considering intel recommendations, however when overclocking you 'kinda' take these shoddy recommendations out the window, I mean they couldn't even say what max voltage and operating temps are suppose to be SB. I mean how difficult is it saying the max volts and temps is 'this' for 24/7.

Just a note I use to run my 775 at 1.6v, which I eventually sold after 4 years, way out of intel recommendation and IIRC their also was a pll voltage recommendation which concides with increasing it to allow for stability. Sandybridge is completely different, now leaving the safety features on have no adverse affect on the stability but like I said every chip is different and the settings operate in a different way which have different effects than older gen chips.

Hope that helps you thumb.gif

Yeah, I guess you're right about there being different implementations on different mobos. And the chip has it's preferences as well.

It just seems my Gigabyte is immune to changing PLL. Nothing happens, except for below 1.4, then it won't post. But between 1.4-1.8 it's exactly the same.

Well, I did have one thing happen just a few hours ago, where I had the PLLv @ 1.6v and I got 5-6C lower temps doing a few LinX runs. It turned out it was somewhat buggy tho, as I was getting only ~70 Gflops where I'm usually scoring 105 or so, and after a restart with exactly the same settings, everything was back to normal. Strange. I don't like all this randomness and unpredictability when taking on a project like this requiring quite a few hours dedicated.

Anyway, I've posted in the Z68 Gigabyte club to hear if they have anything cool to share about this issue. I'll report back with my findings.
    
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munaim1, hows bios 1850?
so far so good, havn't had any problems.



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Yeah, I guess you're right about there being different implementations on different mobos. And..... ~snip
Indeed weird, however that is a sign of instablity. Try and clear the CMOS and reload the overclock and retest. Sometimes the wierdness lies in the BIOS.

Anyways let us know how you get on.
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Note: Im using LLC HIGH because it works best for me when using OFFSET (Less voltage fluctuations), when using manual I tend to use the Ultra high.
C6 & C3 reports disabeled? why bro? i tought they should be left on auto.
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C6 & C3 reports disabeled? why bro? i tought they should be left on auto.
He switched to offset I believe.
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Hi, I'm trying to see how much Vcore / heat i can reduce so i went with PLLv all the way down to 1.4v and it posts normally and also reduced the vcore to 1.408v as opposed to 1.424v which was stable but resulted in error 101 during prime blend. My question is, is it just the Vcore ?
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Hi, I'm trying to see how much Vcore / heat i can reduce so i went with PLLv all the way down to 1.4v and it posts normally and also reduced the vcore to 1.408v as opposed to 1.424v which was stable but resulted in error 101 during prime blend. My question is, is it just the Vcore ?
101 is usually vcore yes.
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So far just over an hour prime blend stable at 4.5Ghz, 1.375 volts and core 3 broke 70c once, but the other cores are holding about 6c lower. Will provide a validation and screenshot after i break two hours.
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SiSoftware Sandra Benching is open to everyone with SB, info below the rules is available


1. 12 HOURS+ STANDARD BLEND or CUSTOM BLEND with ATLEAST 90% of YOUR AVAILABLE RAM used

***Check with task manager/performance tab/physical memory for how much AVAILABLE RAM you have***
***To do Custom BLEND and JUST change the amount of RAM from 1600 to 90% of your available***
***All workers must be visible (hit the windows tab between options and help in prime and select tile)***



2. MUST have a screenie WHILE UNDER LOAD with your OCN name (notepad etc), CPU-Z 1.57.1 or *1.58* and REALTEMP 3.67 ONLY!!

***REALTEMP must show the duration of how long it's running!!!***
***Z68 GIGABYTE MUST ALSO SHOW EASYTUNE6 (last tab - hwMonitor) or HWiNFO FOR VCORE***



3. LIST YOUR COOLING (notepad etc) and provide screenie of RAM, VOLTAGE, MOBO INFO via cpu-z and TASK MANAGER.

***TASK MANAGER only if your running custom blend, make sure you show Prime95 process.***



4. Must have a mild overclock 4ghz+


All submissions must follow a similar template like this!!!!
(This is mine before a few rules got amended)

CLICK HERE


IF YOU ANY PROBLEMS WITH THESE RULES PM ME OR POST IT HERE





Stability is hugely subjective, for example leaving a 20/30 tabs open and playing bfbc2 with fraps will surely drain the available RAM, that for someone could be everday usage.

Taking that into account I find that being able to stay stable for scenerio's like that, decreases your chances of getting any kind of bsod, therefore 'MORE' stability, which might be overkill to some but desirable for plenty of people.

On that note, those that have passed the blend run at 1600mb are stable for how they run their rig, for example, gaming 24/7 bfbc2 with no problems, however, it 'may' not be stable for high ram usage scenerio's which could be unlikely for some as they won't be running fraps and have 20/30 tabs open in the background because that's not how they run their rig.

Once you have done a 12hour+ blend whether it be custom or standard blend, there won't be a need to run it again and im pretty certain that you won't get a bsod that relates to unstability of your overclock.

There will ALWAYS be different opinons about this whole stability issue.

This is JUST the stable club, whether you go for, a standard blend or a custom blend you should be stable for what you use it for, stability is stability for your own use. If standard doesn't work for you, then go ahead and do a custom blend, that's the way I see it.

This is the stable thread, that's means general stability and extreme stability, both are included, however those with 8gb+ should really want to be using custom blend rather than normal blend (1600mb)
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Lol, was that for me?? Sorry I dont have time to do the 12 hour test right now, im just testing to see if ive got a nice two hour stable oc for folding. Now if youll accept 12 hours of smp 8 folding i could easily show you that.
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So far just over an hour prime blend stable at 4.5Ghz, 1.375 volts and core 3 broke 70c once, but the other cores are holding about 6c lower. Will provide a validation and screenshot after i break two hours.
1.375v seems high for 4.5 on a 2600k... no?
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