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I pass all test like IBT and P95 but after a few days of running, it BSOD's with a 0F4 error. Anyone know what this is?
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your memory was overclocked, the command rate for memory latency is 2t at default for the g.skill ripjaws, so would look something like 9-9-9-24 2t but you had yours 9-9-9-24-1t.

1t will work for many modules but it's still can cause instability as the memory isn't rated for it.
Please PM me with instructions how to set my memory to complete default..... When I load UEFI defaults it makes my memory 11-11-11-28. I dunno my memory is all screwed up. Please tell me how to default it. This may be the issue I've been having all along. This may be why I've been crashing so often... PLEASE HELP ME!
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Please PM me with instructions how to set my memory to complete default..... When I load UEFI defaults it makes my memory 11-11-11-28. I dunno my memory is all screwed up. Please tell me how to default it. This may be the issue I've been having all along. This may be why I've been crashing so often... PLEASE HELP ME!
change DRAM timings from auto to manual
manually enter your timings. example 8-8-8-24 2t
f10 = save/start your pc

done.
also be sure to do the same thing and set your ram to it's correct voltage.

**note** if you clear out your cmos, you will have to repeat the process.
I like to go into bios every time I start my pc up just to have a quick look around.
hope this helps.
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Got the d14 installed.
Put in what i thought would work. Didn't have much time yet.
Will try to get higher when i have time.
This will do for now.
Will add it a little later on, thanks bud +rep nice overclock!!!



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munaim1,
I have a question regarding the help you gave someone in this post
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ng-help-5.html
When you worked out the sweet spot for VTT and PLL @ a 47 multiplier, does that sweet spot only apply for that multiplier or would it be the same for say a 49 or 50 multiplier?

To be perfectly honest, I really don't know. Because the proess can be tedious, I didn't really test it with a different mulitplier, it just depends on how it reacts to that particular overclock, so on that note I would say probably not, the vtt and pll sweet spot is probably depedndant on that particular multiplier. Sorry I cannot give you a exact answer to that question.


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I just had a 124 BSOD (while GPU and CPU folding) on settings that were previously folding stable for weeks of 24/7 folding (GPU and CPU), and was wondering what is on my to do list of things to check if it happens again. First thing I did was roll back to the 266.58 drivers because I was on the latest beta BF3 drivers which have caused BSODs for some, so I'm hoping that was all it was. If not though I know to start low with my PLL and work my way back up as that could be one possibility. After trying that what should I do as far as the VCCIO as I understand that could be a possible culprit as well, should I lower it or raise it? Past those two I noticed the BSOD section says could be QPI as well but I'm not familiar with that one, is that for SB systems? So I've eliminated GPU drivers, and I kinda know what to try as far as the PLL goes, but any info as to what I should do as far as VCCIO or QPI if this happens again before resorting to raising vcore?

Other relevant info is I'm at 4.7Ghz @ 1.375 manual volts, ultra high LLC, 1.352 lowest voltage under load, 140% current capability, RAM is 1600Mhz 8-8-8-24 1.5v XMP. Everything else is still on auto as far as I remember such as VCCSA, PLL, VCCIO, etc.

Thanks in advance.
Some may think that folding is a better stability tester, however I disagree. I remember a memebr who was folding for a couple month's only to find that he bsods and fails prime with a few mintues, I would highly recommend that you run Prime blend with 80/90% of your available RAM for a few hours before determining stability. I would usally say that 12hours is fine for everything, however if you're folding then it may be a better idea to run it a little longer than 12, something like 16-24hours would defintely be stable, Have a little read at this: http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...idge-read.html


Here is a perfect example of how to tweak the vccio and pll voltage for a 'better' stability, go to page 5 and post 45 and read on:

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...king-help.html

Hope that helps Also a bsod code can be quite helpful, so be sure to note down what the code is.




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I'd rather run generic benchmarks such as Crysis Benchmark Tool or 3DMarks since it's much less hassle.

Edit: Finally, my submission
Sorry bud, rules state that you must have the atleast realtemp 3.67 and above which you can download from the OP.


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Here is my god awful, embarrassing, disgusting, horrible intel chip submission.

Wow this chip sucks, prolly going to try to RMA this or something I don't give a s***...

4.6 GHz @ 1.450 volts. How sad.

EDIT: Not even worth the argument. Rofl.
THanks for the screenie, will be added in a moment.



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seems to be ok after 13 hours prime standard blend test, at 5Ghz
Please read the rules in the OP, realtemp 3.67 or above is required. Thanks and sorry about that.




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I pass all test like IBT and P95 but after a few days of running, it BSOD's with a 0F4 error. Anyone know what this is?
BSOD while doing what?
Not sure what that code means, try goole and see what you could find. I woudl suspect a corrupted OS, it doesn't help when your stress testing or BSODing many times in your main OS, I strongly recommend that you use a different OS for all that. All the info should be in the OP under ****IMPORTANT TIPS AND FINDINGS**** - Random / Idle BSODS & Tips.

Hope that helps




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Please PM me with instructions how to set my memory to complete default..... When I load UEFI defaults it makes my memory 11-11-11-28. I dunno my memory is all screwed up. Please tell me how to default it. This may be the issue I've been having all along. This may be why I've been crashing so often... PLEASE HELP ME!
lol either set to XMP or set the RAM to it's stock settings, I'm pretty sure I have said that to you before. Try and read the guides in the OP.





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I usually BSOD while either streaming video or watching a movie.
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Some may think that folding is a better stability tester, however I disagree. I remember a memebr who was folding for a couple month's only to find that he bsods and fails prime with a few mintues, I would highly recommend that you run Prime blend with 80/90% of your available RAM for a few hours before determining stability. I would usally say that 12hours is fine for everything, however if you're folding then it may be a better idea to run it a little longer than 12, something like 16-24hours would defintely be stable, Have a little read at this: http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...idge-read.html


Here is a perfect example of how to tweak the vccio and pll voltage for a 'better' stability, go to page 5 and post 45 and read on:

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...king-help.html

Hope that helps Also a bsod code can be quite helpful, so be sure to note down what the code is.


Thanks. I did mention the BSOD was 124, do you need more information than that? If so what?

It did pass like 8 hours of prime blend max RAM usage and ~30 minutes of each of the two recommended FTTs at these settings. I have read the OP of the solving 124 BSOD post, that's why I mentioned that I rolled my GPU drivers back from the latest beta ones that have been reported to cause 124 BSODs.

Also as I mentioned I know to try starting low and increasing the PLL should this BSOD happen again. What I was really asking was two things, first would I want to also try lowering the VCCIO as a possible solution for 124 BSOD or would increasing it be much more likely? Second, what is QPI and if it need be changed for troubleshooting a 124 BSOD then in which direction? I don't remember seeing that setting in my ASUS BIOS, if I have that how would I want to adjust that, up or down? Also expected or common values that these two would be need to be changed to would be appreciated. As I understand it 1.1v is the default and 1.2v is the max for VCCIO but have you noticed a trend in most people solving 124 at 1.15 or 1.05. The same would be helpful for QPI because as I said I have no clue what that is or what it should be at default or what to expect it to need.

Past answers to those two questions and reading the entire "fixing 124 BSOD" thread ( I already read the 2500k OC help thread and the OP of fixing 124) is there anything else I ought to know to try before increasing vcore should this BSOD happen again?
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I usually BSOD while either streaming video or watching a movie.
Not sure bud, but liek I said could be a corrupt OS, you could try some of the things in this thread: http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...idge-read.html



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It did pass like 8 hours of prime blend max RAM usage and ~30 minutes of each of the two recommended FTTs at these settings. I have read the OP of the solving 124 BSOD post, that's why I mentioned that I rolled my GPU drivers back from the latest beta ones that have been reported to cause 124 BSODs.
Well, I can't say much about the GPU driver's as I have not personally used them. I nregards to Prime testing I woudl say , you should really run it a little longer, especially because you do folding.

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Also as I mentioned I know to try starting low and increasing the PLL should this BSOD happen again. What I was really asking was two things, first would I want to also try lowering the VCCIO as a possible solution for 124 BSOD or would increasing it be much more likely?
Default VCCIO is around 1.05/1.07 I believe, VTT and QPI is the VCCIO setting for sandybridge, that is why Bsod 124 can be related to VCCIO. Increasing it does help stability, but if you reach a certain point, it'll just become unstable. It is either st on auto or increased, not usually lowered form it's stock setting.


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Also expected or common values that these two would be need to be changed to would be appreciated. As I understand it 1.1v is the default and 1.2v is the max for VCCIO but have you noticed a trend in most people solving 124 at 1.15 or 1.05.
Unfortunatly I can't really say, I've been through hundred of overclocks and can't really remember, however there is one thing that does come to mind regarding vccio. Usually when you're overclocking ram going above 1.1v can help, but between stock VCCIO and 1.1v it can help general stability, but remember increasing it too much will more than likely cause you instability and generate the same heat that vcore would. Peop think that using vcccio is a substitute for vcore, unfortunatly I don't see it that way.

Increasing VCCIO (Vtt) helps when you start to strain the IMC of the chip, when using high RAM usage in prime95 etc (instability) therefore a small boost to the vccio can help with that stability providing that you have cooling in the first place to maintain your cpu's temperature.

Hope that makes sense.


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Past answers to those two questions and reading the entire "fixing 124 BSOD" thread ( I already read the 2500k OC help thread and the OP of fixing 124) is there anything else I ought to know to try before increasing vcore should this BSOD happen again?
124 is a little tricky as you have gathered, turning that error code into something else can actually be done just by the VTT and PLL voltage alone, even if you get it to 101 atleast you know that's it's vcore that you need, or an error code showing OS corruption etc.

What I would advise is that you run the Hard FFT's for around 1 hour each and see how far you get, if you get the infamous 124, then I wuld recommend that you start with the PLL votlage, reduce it all the way to 1.5v and start again with the FFT's, keep on doing until you find one value (sweetspot) that nets you the most duration in prime and note that down, then take it back to PLL back to auto and do the same for the VCCIO, obviously use the smallest increments as possible and test with prime blend.

Hopefully when you find a sweet spot for both (could be PLL voltage at 1.6125v and VCCIO on auto or PLL voltage at 1.6875v and VCCIO on 1.095v)

You can combine them together and retest with prime and see what happens. It is a very tedious process and one that requires a lot of patience.

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That is much more helpful indeed, thank you very much. Just to be sure I understand VTT and QPI are just the one setting "VCCIO" on my board correct? I believe I have an okay handle on what the VCCIO does (as you mentioned, basically the IMC voltage), but I just don't remember hearing it refereed to as QPI or VTT.

Thanks again, I do appreciate the more in depth information.
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That is much more helpful indeed, thank you very much.
No worries bud, I'm still learning myself and it helps me aswell when I have to touch up on some of the things or else I'll just forget lol

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Just to be sure I understand VTT and QPI are just the one setting "VCCIO" on my board correct? I believe I have an okay handle on what the VCCIO does (as you mentioned, basically the IMC voltage), but I just don't remember hearing it refereed to as QPI or VTT.

Thanks again, I do appreciate the more in depth information.
That is correct. Because of the new UEFI BIOS most if not all call it either VCCIO or just VTT, I think it's just gigabyte mobo's that still refer to it as QPI/VTT, but im not 100% sure about that though, however just to confirm, yes VCCIO is refered to QPI/VTT.

Here's sin confirming what I just mentioned above:

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VCCIO: more commonly known at QPI/VTT voltage, this is the VTT voltage. Formally known as Processor Power for I/O it is the voltage for the integrated memory controller as well as the PCI-E controller. While Intel’s Maximum is 1.05 +/- 3% = 1.08v, you can go higher, much higher. I would recommend staying below 1.2v for 24/7 use, but depending on the quality of the IMC on your chip, I have seen 2133 MHz done on as little at 1.1v. I used 1.12v for overclocking my Dominator 1600 MHz to 1866 MHz, and it did it without any problems. Do realize that this voltage contributes heat as well to the whole thermal package.
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munaim1,
I have a question regarding the help you gave someone in this post
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ng-help-5.html
When you worked out the sweet spot for VTT and PLL @ a 47 multiplier, does that sweet spot only apply for that multiplier or would it be the same for say a 49 or 50 multiplier?
To be perfectly honest, I really don't know. Because the proess can be tedious, I didn't really test it with a different mulitplier, it just depends on how it reacts to that particular overclock, so on that note I would say probably not, the vtt and pll sweet spot is probably depedndant on that particular multiplier. Sorry I cannot give you a exact answer to that question.



EDIT Just to add to what I said above and after a little bit of thinking lol :

Actually, I can maybe try and explain this to the best of my ability, lets just say that between 4.5 to 4.8 you recieve bsod 101 after tweaking the vtt and pll for 4.5ghz, so at that point you would obivously continue increasing the vcore until you're stable, however they may be a point during that time that the 124 may arise, that doesn't mean that the vtt and pll sweet spot has changed and it needs to be tweaked again, because remember 124 can also be vcore, so on that note you continue increasing the vcore until you reach a point of stabiity, however that trully depends on the potential of that particular chip. But and this is important, overclocking is not a guarentee, so in order to 'find' your overclock you will need to set yourself a target and that should be by vcore and temp, not clock speed that will allow you to really see the potential of that chip under those conditions.

If you read about VTT just above (explained to Juano), I would say it doesn't really need to be changed once you find the sweet spot, as the IMC won't be stressed unless you really start pumping insane voltages and overclocking the RAM, so that just leaves the PLL voltage. Recent findings have suggested that lowering PLL voltage can help, however that is not universal amongst every motherboard, so whether or not that dependant on clock speed or the motherboard I really don't know, but I I would say motherboard. So to conlude, I would say I retract what I said before about maybe having to change the vtt and pll for higher multi's because imho the pll is tied to the motherboard and the vtt doesn't really have to change, therefore it just leave's the vcore. But again that is what think and I have gathered so far. I might be wrong lol
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