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^ thank you for being so orginized and responding to everyone. like i said i have the option to exchange the cpu for another and try again but dont want to until I know for sure it's not my o.c settings and its the chip itself as I aready went thru 3x 2600ks that none would go past 4.8ghz stable with my cooling setup and have a feeling (one booted at 55x blinking line and 53x validation) but its sold and i regret it now.. so to not regret it i need to get a 2500k that runs 5ghz under 1.4v because my cooler wont allow past 1.4 way to hott... anyway.. the 4.8 @ 1.41v failed (1 worker stopped rest continue) after 5 hours have tried many different settings and im starting to get a wee bit frustrated... (esp just seeing like 2-3 new people posting their 5ghz @ 1.376 or whatever lol) so i took it down to 47x and am currently 30 min into my 1344 test will try 1792 and 4096 if they pass try to blend its vcore in bios set to 1.37 and in windows cpu showing 1.344/[((1.352/1.360))]/1.368 which i guess isnt to bad right? (thats me telling myself to pretend its a good one you know how that goes) well i dont know exactly where to begin.. basiclly all of my settings in in my p8p67-pro under cpu-config are set to disabled then i have it to XMP and everything else diabled (cpu spread spectrum/pll ov) only thing manually set is the vcore everything else on auto (have tired 350vrm) except for power set to EXTREME oh and just read you said backround proccess could be a thingy? would i get better overclocking results if i was to run on a seperate hard drive with a fresh install?? my hdd miht be causing the instability maybe.. i went from i5-760 p55 to 2500k p67 plug and play just reinsatlled all the drivers but never reformated..

:eye sore: Chunk of text lol

Anyway

First things first, post your BIOS screenshots as you currently have them for your overclock. Second please go to your profile > My rigs > and update your system spec.

Finally do a fresh OS install, it'll be much better in the long run.

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Here are the bios settings I used for my test: Warning: Loki's 1.376v Uefi (Click to show)
Ai Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
BLCK/PCIE Frequency: 100.0
Turbo Ratio: By Per Core
Cores 1: 50
Cores 2: 50
Cores 3: 50
Cores 4: 50
Internal PLL Voltage: Enabled
Memory Frequency: 1600MHz
DRAM Timing Control: 9-9-9-24 2T
EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled

Ai Tweaker\ CPU Power Management
CPU Ratio: Auto
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
Turbo Mode: Enabled
Long Duration Power Limit: Auto
Long Duration Maintained: Auto
Short Duration Power Limit: Auto
Additional Turbo Voltage: Auto
Primary Plane Current Limit: Auto

Ai Tweaker
Load-Line Calibration: High
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
CPU Current Capability: 140%
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
Offset Mode Sign: +
CPU Offset Voltage: 0.0150
DRAM Voltage: 1.5
VCCSA Voltage: Auto
VCCIO Voltage: 1.15
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled

Advanced\ CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio: Auto
Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All
Limit CPUID Maximum: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Intel Virtualization Technology: Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
Turbo Mode: Enabled
CPU C1E: Enabled
CPU C3 Report: Disabled
CPU C6 Report: Disabled

If anyone has any advice please feel free to post!!! I'm already planning to give it another shot with 1.368v (.0100 offset) as well as debating changes to the following settings...
  • DRAM Timing Control: 9-9-9-24 2T > 9-9-9-24 1T Trying for 1T could affect stability but it could also provide a SLIGHT boost.
  • CPU Current Capability: 140% > If a system is stable is there any reason not to try lowering this slowly? (At 5Ghz 140% is probably required I guess)
  • CPU Offset Voltage: 0.0150 > As stated .0100 is my next goal
  • VCCIO Voltage: 1.15 > If possible I'd like to back this off a tad.
  • CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55 > I'm not sure I need to go lower on this setting, but if I can and stay stable it wouldn't hurt.

PS: How does one take a screen shot of the bios to post a template?
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Man this thread is too big anymore to remember where I posted....

Anyway, as an update, I did a super duper clean install of my video drivers, aka I made sure I did it right this time, and since then I haven't had any weird problems or bsods. My last issue were a couple 0x124 bsods and graphics issues (with gpu stock or overclocked, didnt matter).

I'm hoping its just a GPU issue. Spread spectrum is still enabled and its gonna stay that way at least for a month until I see that I'm not crashing. After that, I'll put it back to disabled and see what happens with that.

good luck overclocking everyone, just when you think you're done you're... not.
    
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Here are the bios settings I used for my test: Warning: Loki's 1.376v Uefi (Click to show)
Ai Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
BLCK/PCIE Frequency: 100.0
Turbo Ratio: By Per Core
Cores 1: 50
Cores 2: 50
Cores 3: 50
Cores 4: 50
Internal PLL Voltage: Enabled
Memory Frequency: 1600MHz
DRAM Timing Control: 9-9-9-24 2T
EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled
Ai Tweaker\ CPU Power Management
CPU Ratio: Auto
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
Turbo Mode: Enabled
Long Duration Power Limit: Auto
Long Duration Maintained: Auto
Short Duration Power Limit: Auto
Additional Turbo Voltage: Auto
Primary Plane Current Limit: Auto
Ai Tweaker
Load-Line Calibration: High
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
CPU Current Capability: 140%
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
Offset Mode Sign: +
CPU Offset Voltage: 0.0150
DRAM Voltage: 1.5
VCCSA Voltage: Auto
VCCIO Voltage: 1.15
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled
Advanced\ CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio: Auto
Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All
Limit CPUID Maximum: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Intel Virtualization Technology: Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
Turbo Mode: Enabled
CPU C1E: Enabled
CPU C3 Report: Disabled
CPU C6 Report: Disabled
If anyone has any advice please feel free to post!!! I'm already planning to give it another shot with 1.368v (.0100 offset) as well as debating changes to the following settings...
  • DRAM Timing Control: 9-9-9-24 2T > 9-9-9-24 1T Trying for 1T could affect stability but it could also provide a SLIGHT boost.
  • CPU Current Capability: 140% > If a system is stable is there any reason not to try lowering this slowly? (At 5Ghz 140% is probably required I guess)
  • CPU Offset Voltage: 0.0150 > As stated .0100 is my next goal
  • VCCIO Voltage: 1.15 > If possible I'd like to back this off a tad.
  • CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55 > I'm not sure I need to go lower on this setting, but if I can and stay stable it wouldn't hurt.
PS: How does one take a screen shot of the bios to post a template?
Well I had mine stable at 5ghz 1.36v @ 110% cpu current capability, and 120% @ 5.1ghz @ 1.4v so you can probably try it @ a lower setting, if you want. But try it there at 140% 1st then lower it if it passes.
As for you DRAM timing, mine was 9-9-9-24 1T stable @ standard blend but even if I run a custom blend of 90% ram i'm pretty sure it will be stable just as long as I keep it at its "default" bios set speed of 1333mhz (even though they are stock 1600mhz). As of right now i'm trying to get mine stable with 90% ram used at 1600mhz I will report to you once I get it done.

As for taking a screenshot in bios, for me all I had to do was plug in a flash drive and press F12 and it saves it in there.

EDIT: And it seems it just doesn't want to stay @ 1600mhz probably because of my timings... well I don't want to loosen that up as I prefer tighter timings than higher frequencies so I will try my luck with 1333mhz at 7-7-7-20 1T.
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I think I found my stable @45/1.35vcore. Have PLL Overvoltage on already, which seems to be keeping my system stable. Here is my results smile.gif

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Thanks for the help munaim1! I'm going to push further on this OC definitely, but this is probably the only opportunity I will get for a full 12-hour for the next week or so.

Cheers!
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Originally Posted by T a z z View Post

Here are the bios settings I used for my test: Warning: Loki's 1.376v Uefi (Click to show)
Ai Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
BLCK/PCIE Frequency: 100.0
Turbo Ratio: By Per Core
Cores 1: 50
Cores 2: 50
Cores 3: 50
Cores 4: 50
Internal PLL Voltage: Enabled
Memory Frequency: 1600MHz
DRAM Timing Control: 9-9-9-24 2T
EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled

Ai Tweaker\ CPU Power Management
CPU Ratio: Auto
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
Turbo Mode: Enabled
Long Duration Power Limit: Auto
Long Duration Maintained: Auto
Short Duration Power Limit: Auto
Additional Turbo Voltage: Auto
Primary Plane Current Limit: Auto

Ai Tweaker
Load-Line Calibration: High
VRM Frequency: Manual
VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
CPU Current Capability: 140%
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
Offset Mode Sign: +
CPU Offset Voltage: 0.0150
DRAM Voltage: 1.5
VCCSA Voltage: Auto
VCCIO Voltage: 1.15
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled

Advanced\ CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio: Auto
Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All
Limit CPUID Maximum: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Intel Virtualization Technology: Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
Turbo Mode: Enabled
CPU C1E: Enabled
CPU C3 Report: Disabled
CPU C6 Report: Disabled

If anyone has any advice please feel free to post!!! I'm already planning to give it another shot with 1.368v (.0100 offset) as well as debating changes to the following settings...
  • DRAM Timing Control: 9-9-9-24 2T > 9-9-9-24 1T Trying for 1T could affect stability but it could also provide a SLIGHT boost.
  • CPU Current Capability: 140% > If a system is stable is there any reason not to try lowering this slowly? (At 5Ghz 140% is probably required I guess)
  • CPU Offset Voltage: 0.0150 > As stated .0100 is my next goal
  • VCCIO Voltage: 1.15 > If possible I'd like to back this off a tad.
  • CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55 > I'm not sure I need to go lower on this setting, but if I can and stay stable it wouldn't hurt.

PS: How does one take a screen shot of the bios to post a template?

2T to 1T - You won't really notice the difference unless you're benching or something.
CPU Current Capability - Leave it at 140% (all it does is remove any kind of limit on the cpu from the motherboard allowing for more current when required)
CPU Offset - Good luck
VCCIO - If your RAM is at stock (1600mhz with 1.5v or thereabouts you don't need that much VCCIO, anywhere between stock and 1.1v will do the trick)
CPU PLL - Between 1.5v - 1.7v is where you'll find more stability. Test it out and see what happens.

You will need a FAT32 USB stick and that's it, once in the UEFI (BIOS) I believe F12 is the key that takes the screenshots, all you have to do is save it to the USB.


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Man this thread is too big anymore to remember where I posted....

Anyway, as an update, I did a super duper clean install of my video drivers, aka I made sure I did it right this time, and since then I haven't had any weird problems or bsods. My last issue were a couple 0x124 bsods and graphics issues (with gpu stock or overclocked, didnt matter).

I'm hoping its just a GPU issue. Spread spectrum is still enabled and its gonna stay that way at least for a month until I see that I'm not crashing. After that, I'll put it back to disabled and see what happens with that.

good luck overclocking everyone, just when you think you're done you're... not.

Yeah it is lol

Could you post your BIOS screenshots as you have them please, I just want to see how you're running your setup. Cheers


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Originally Posted by mend0k View Post

Well I had mine stable at 5ghz 1.36v @ 110% cpu current capability, and 120% @ 5.1ghz @ 1.4v so you can probably try it @ a lower setting, if you want. But try it there at 140% 1st then lower it if it passes.
As for you DRAM timing, mine was 9-9-9-24 1T stable @ standard blend but even if I run a custom blend of 90% ram i'm pretty sure it will be stable just as long as I keep it at its "default" bios set speed of 1333mhz (even though they are stock 1600mhz). As of right now i'm trying to get mine stable with 90% ram used at 1600mhz I will report to you once I get it done.

As for taking a screenshot in bios, for me all I had to do was plug in a flash drive and press F12 and it saves it in there.

EDIT: And it seems it just doesn't want to stay @ 1600mhz probably because of my timings... well I don't want to loosen that up as I prefer tighter timings than higher frequencies so I will try my luck with 1333mhz at 7-7-7-20 1T.

Leave the RAM at stock (XMP) unless you're benching etc. You probably won't even notice the difference.


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Originally Posted by LearnIIBurn View Post

I think I found my stable @45/1.35vcore. Have PLL Overvoltage on already, which seems to be keeping my system stable. Here is my results smile.gif

337

Thanks for the help munaim1! I'm going to push further on this OC definitely, but this is probably the only opportunity I will get for a full 12-hour for the next week or so.

Cheers!


Thanks bud, appreciate the contribution, Will be adding it now. You're most welcome, happy to help fellow overclockers thumb.gif


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Updated the guide a little smile.gif


Here's my quick little sandy guide:
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The only things will that will require multiple changes are the vccio (VTT), PLL voltage and vcore, refer to this:

Set the whole thing to stock and start again. This time only change the RAM to XMP (STOCK) and run prime blend for a few mintues to see that your CPU is functioning properly.

Then comes the task of determining the voltage for the multiplier, but that comes after you find the correct LLC setting for your motherboard. LLC = Load line calibration, it's there to help you eliminate or reduce the vdroop as much as possible. Vdroop is the voltage difference between what you set in the BIOS / UEFI and what you really get under load. You will have to work out which works best for YOU. For example, if you set 1.35v in the BIOS and under load during stress testing it's 1.31v and that's HIGH or Level 2 LLC, then you may have to increase the LLC setting to reduce that droop, now depending on how your mobo works it could be like so:

Level 1 being the highest LLC setting and 5 being the lowest and vice versa. The objective is to keep the voltage under load as controllable as possible without it letting it spike. These LLC settings will be different amongst mobo's. For Asus mobo's the Ultra high (75%) LLC seems to work best for when using Manual voltage, however I personally have found using high LLC with offset is a little better, idle voltage is a little higher (can be helpful in preventing those pesky idle bugs) and voltgea fluctuates a little less when under load.


Then it comes to that task of finding the actual voltage for the overclock. Set the vcore manually to 1.25v, Leave C1E and Speedsteep enabled and run C3 and C6 on Auto if you can, if not leave them enabled. Also leave Spread spectrum enabled, if you find that it disrupts the BCLK in CPU-Z then just disable it.

Additional settings that you need to change from the get go, but won't need to be changed afterwards:


Can be found under advanced settings/cpu configuration:
Quote:
For Asus Mobo's
CPU Current Capability - 140%
Phase and Duty Control - Extreme
EPU Power saving - Disabled
VRM Frequency - Manual - 350
Quote:
For Asrock Mobo's
Turbo Boost Power - Manual
Short Duration Power Limit - 250
Long Duration Power Limit - 250
Core current Limit - 250
Quote:
For Biostar Mobo's
CPU Core Current max (AMP) - 150
Power Limit Value 1 & 2 - 200
Quote:
For Zotac Mobo's
Turbo Boost Power Max - 250
Turbo Boost Short Power Max - 250
IA Core current (AMP) - 200
Quote:
For Gigabyte Mobo's
Turbo Power Limit - 200
Quote:
For MSI Mobo's
Short Duration Power Limit- 250
Long Duration Power Limit - 250

CPU PLL Overvoltage is only needed when a particular multi (usually the high ones (46x+)) doesn't boot into windows.

This should be a stepping stone to get your rig stable. With those settings you will eventually get to the point where you're stable or nearing stability.

Set the multi to 45 and the vcore to 1.25v and increase the vcore each time after you stress test, run a quick custom prime with these FFTs (1344 & 1792) like THIS and go back and change the vcore accordingly, bump it by one not big jumps and that goes for PLL and VCCIO (VTT) and VCORE!!!

Work your way up from there, increase multiplier and test with prime blend, if it fails, increase the voltage or continue increasing the multiplier until you are satisfied with the temps.

Just a note: The custom FFT's are not that consistant, making them not all that reliable, however if it works for you, then that's great. What I mean by inconsistant, is that it may pass once with the same settings but may fail the exact same run second time round. In that instance I will recommend you to run a standard blend test to find your overclock, using intervals of 15/30mins. This duration will increase when you're nearing stability. This is a lenthy process, one that takes time and patience, make sure your up to the task thumb.gif


When nearing stability ie. lasting a couple hours or little more in prime blend and it fails, you could try a couple of things like tweaking the PLL and VCCIO (QPI/VTT).

When RAM is at stock (for example, around 1.5v and 1600mhz) increasing the the VCCIO can help general stability when overclocking the cpu, usually between stock and 1.125v. If you're overclocking RAM then increasing it further might help.

PLL voltage between 1.5v - 1.7v could also help.

Just a small reminder, don't think more voltage = more stability doh.gifWhen changing any values in the BIOS / UEFI, start low or stock and work your way up in small increments.
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Just thought I'd let you guys know, I have been testing the PLL voltage further and found something quite amazing. With my current stable settings including the PLL voltage around 1.7v was stable as you can see from my submission to the club. For the last 10days or so I tried messing around with the PLL, I dropped it down to 1.4v and started going up, I kept on receiving the Error 124 up until I reached 1.55v and it passed both the 1344 and 1792 test along with a few hours of prime blend. My sweet spot is at 1.55v.



Here are the additionl info regarding PLL voltage, VCCIO and VCCSA: READ BSOD 124 / IDLE Freezing on Sandy? & THIS (scroll down a little to the *~*IMPORTANT TIPS & FINDINGS*~* section

Head over to the Sandy Stable Club for more info and tips thumb.gif


One more thing, BSOD Error code 101 is usually refered to the vcore being too low, Error 124 can also be vcore, VTT (VCCIO) or even PLL voltage being to high or too low.

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This is GREAT.... If your mobo HAS settings for LLC... Mine does not. sadsmiley.gif
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Originally Posted by munaim1 View Post

Updated the guide a little smile.gif
Here's my quick little sandy guide:
Here are the additionl info regarding PLL voltage, VCCIO and VCCSA: READ BSOD 124 / IDLE Freezing on Sandy? & THIS (scroll down a little to the *~*IMPORTANT TIPS & FINDINGS*~* section
Head over to the Sandy Stable Club for more info and tips thumb.gif
One more thing, BSOD Error code 101 is usually refered to the vcore being too low, Error 124 can also be vcore, VTT (VCCIO) or even PLL voltage being to high or too low.
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By the way, with 4 sticks (2 2x4GB Corsair Ripjaws 1600MHz CL6) setting the UEFI/BIOS option to XMP won't run the computer past POST. I think the XMP setting is only for RAM "kits". If you populate all four slots with 2 different kits of the same model, XMP might not work. Just FYI smile.gif
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I will try to get my bios settings soon if cant take pictures will just copy and paste a template with the settings.. anyway here is my 2500k's 4.7 run running for 17 hours gonna stop the run now!

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