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Make those changes then try lowering your voltage.
Voltage is set to auto right now. Should I set it for something around 1.3v? I don't really want manual voltages because I'd prefer if my CPU lower the clock rate when at idle. Or am I confusing manual voltage with something else?
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Voltage is set to auto right now. Should I set it for something around 1.3v? I don't really want manual voltages because I'd prefer if my CPU lower the clock rate when at idle. Or am I confusing manual voltage with something else?

Speed Step is what lowers your clock at idle.
    
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Make those changes then try lowering your voltage.
How would I go about lowering the voltage in the Asus BIOS? Sorry, I'm pretty new to this.
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Speed Step is what lowers your clock at idle.
Thanks for the clarification. I figured I was mistaken.
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Make those changes then try lowering your voltage.
How would I go about lowering the voltage in the Asus BIOS? Sorry, I'm pretty new to this.
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Speed Step is what lowers your clock at idle.
Thanks for the clarification. I figured I was mistaken.

I would recommend that you read the basics of overclocking (essentials thread in the sticky area) and from there read up on the many links that are available in the first page of this thread.

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ok...no more lurking...not lost yet but time to ask for directions before I get lost

Prime95-1344K
Worker 1 stops after 9 minutes
Worker 4 stops after 16 minutes
Prime95 stopped after Worker 4 failed


Core Voltage ranged from 1.488, 1.496, 1.504 in CPU-Z on last test (current BIOS settings)
Final Celsius temps were max 77,83,83,80



Current Bios Settings:
LLC= Ultra High
Offset= .010
Multiplier= all by 50
VRM Freq=350
CPU Current Ability=140%
Phase and Duty Control=Extreme
EPU Power Saving=Disabled

some help would be appreciated smile.gif




Tests so far:
Multi Offset LLC vcore CPU-Z Error Where error Prime Test
50 0.065 Ultra 1.464 OS Freeze Prime95 1792
50 0.070 High n/a 101 Windows GINA N/A
50 0.070 Ultra 1.464 OS Freeze Prime95 1792
50 0.075 Ultra n/a 101 Desktop N/A
50 0.080 Ultra 1.472 124 Prime95 1792
50 0.080 High 1.44 101 Prime95 1792
50 0.085 High 1.432 124 Prime95 1792
50 0.085 Ultra 1.48 101 Prime95 1792
50 0.085 Ultra 1.48 101 Prime95 1792
50 0.095 Ultra 1.488 Workers stop Prime95 1792
50 0.010 High 1.456 101 Prime95 1344
50 0.010 Ultra 1.496 Workers stop Prime95 1344
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looks like your temps will hold you back as it may take more Vcore. I need 1.45v just to get in at 5.0 can rum a few test but fail Prime 95 within a few min.
    
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this is my bios setting:

cpu ratio: 45
interrnal PPL - disable
speedstep - disable
core lmit - 150
blck- 100
spread spectrum - on or off?
Voltage control

all setting is auto

CPU LLC- level 5
IGPU LLC- Level 5


Intel HT - enable
active cores- all
hardware prefecther - enable
adjacement cache line - enable
Enchanced (CIE) - disable
CPU C3 & C6 - both disable
package C state - disable
Cpu thermal throttling - enable


pc system:

intel i7 2700k
asrock z68 ext.3 gen 3
one stick of 4 GB of Corsair DDR3-1600 ( later buy 8 GB of one stick)




i need to overclock to 5GB+. when i change the setting to 50 ratio, it doesnot boot at all.

what do i need to change?


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ok...no more lurking...not lost yet but time to ask for directions before I get lost

Prime95-1344K
Worker 1 stops after 9 minutes
Worker 4 stops after 16 minutes
Prime95 stopped after Worker 4 failed


Core Voltage ranged from 1.488, 1.496, 1.504 in CPU-Z on last test (current BIOS settings)
Final Celsius temps were max 77,83,83,80


~snip


Could you please add your rig to your sig, instructions are in my sig. Either use rig builder or the my profile link above.

Try using manual voltage first, make sure you eliminate vdroop as much as possible by using the correct LLC for your system (not sure what motherboard you have). Just a note, not all SB chips will hit 5ghz, work your way up from 4.5/4.7ghz.


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this is my bios setting:

cpu ratio: 45
interrnal PPL - disable
speedstep - disable
core lmit - 150
blck- 100
spread spectrum - on or off?
Voltage control

all setting is auto

CPU LLC- level 5
IGPU LLC- Level 5


Intel HT - enable
active cores- all
hardware prefecther - enable
adjacement cache line - enable
Enchanced (CIE) - disable
CPU C3 & C6 - both disable
package C state - disable
Cpu thermal throttling - enable
~snip

Could you also fill in your system spec. Thanks

Please click on the Sandybridge guide in my sig and try and follow the instructions. smile.gif
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munaim1: Could you please look at my previous post and comment something genious and constructive smile.gif I'm a little confused with my observations. I have lower idle power consumption in manual OC (C6 enabled) than offset OC. Difference is not that big, only a few Watts but anyway. Both having almost the same core voltage under load.

For me it seems that there is really no need to use offset, if same OC level and low (or even a bit lower) idle power consumption can be achieved using manual OC. Only thing I'm worried about is that i can't get vcore lower at idle. So is it possible that a high constant vcore is going to be a problem in long term? Or is it possible that CPU-Z reports idle vcore incorrectly, and the actual idle vcore would be much less (~0.9v) when C6 enabled? Or is it something else C6 is doing?
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munaim1: Could you please look at my previous post and comment something genious and constructive smile.gif I'm a little confused with my observations. I have lower idle power consumption in manual OC (C6 enabled) than offset OC. Difference is not that big, only a few Watts but anyway. Both having almost the same core voltage under load.

For me it seems that there is really no need to use offset, if same OC level and low (or even a bit lower) idle power consumption can be achieved using manual OC. Only thing I'm worried about is that i can't get vcore lower at idle. So is it possible that a high constant vcore is going to be a problem in long term? Or is it possible that CPU-Z reports idle vcore incorrectly, and the actual idle vcore would be much less (~0.9v) when C6 enabled? Or is it something else C6 is doing?

Just had a look at your previous post, It is slightly strange that your wattage count is lower when the actual vcore is higher in comparison to offset idle voltage. You could be right and that coretemp / realtemp is reading it incorrectly.

C6 and C3 have something to do with sleep, I'm not entirely sure as to what they do though. The main power saving options are Speedstep and C1E, with both enabled and running offset, your multiplier does drop along with the voltage, now that should indicate less power draw than when using manual voltage, however to get a much more accurate reading you will have to measure the points on the motherboard. Software readings are more than likely to be inaccurate.

According to realtemp, my cpu wattage is between 12.5 and 17w right now (4 tabs opened in chrome and that's it - Include hidden background processes), not sure how correct that is, but that's what it says. Now if I changed to manual voltage then obviously the idle voltage will be higher which makes us think the wattage count must also be higher, but in your case it's the other way round. It's probably realtemp that's dodgy but that's all I can think of right now.

Because we see the voltage lower, we assume that the wattage count will be lower and should be, therefore we recommend using offset, unfortunately I have no means accurately test this theory but it is common sense as I see it and that's why we say that using offset will help overall temps (it really does on mine) and the life of the chip (probably because the wattage count and idle voltage is much less).

Hope that helps

Here's the reading points for vcore on a P8P67 PRO, maybe you can get a multi meter on there to read the wattage power, I don't know redface.gif

450
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