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Yeah it's likely that you need more vcore. I would recommend that you do some reading first, best place to start would be the first page of this thread, more specifically the first post.

Thanks, I did some reading and I found that the max TDP is often set to 200 or more.
Mine is at 135W. Also my Internal Core Current limit is set to 155.
While running IBT @max the multi sometimes drops to 44 or 43.
During prime it always stays at 45.
I know that it throttles because of max TDP, but I thought it might be useful to leave it at 135 to cut the temps.
Could these settings cause instability?
And are there any numbers from Intel for max Core Current?
Could too much damage the cpu?
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@ kevin992002

Initial value = stock = auto.

CPU PLL information is available in the first post of the thread and in my BSOD 124 thread. Please take the time to read them. Thanks


@ ramkatral

The download link in the first post directs you to real temp 3.69.1 beta. Not sure what link you're referring to.

I actually read the info in the OP regarding CPU PLL but it seems that OCers have a mixed recommendation between 1.4V and 1.7V as an initial value?

What instance will you ever need to use negative offset? According to raja of the ASUS ROG forum, the negative offset is a 'direct' subtraction from the VID while the positive one is not. How is this so?

If I use a Multimeter, is it hard to locate the Vcore pinouts in the p8z68-v/gen3 if it is already installed in the case?
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Wonering if I did this right. To find my "sweet spot" for my PLL I clocked my multi at 50 with 1.4v and a 80mv offset. I ran though every PLL voltage from 1.5-1.8 and 1.725 PLL yielded the best results (let me boot into windows, ran a WEI and passmark test, and let me go about 1-2 minutes into P95 before crashing) Most times I would BSOD before the windows flag screen so I feel this was my optimized PLL
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I've also noticed one weird thing with my setup. When I set the memory frequency to "Auto", it automatically sets my RAM to the JEDEC settings of 1600MHz which is to be expected. But, when I set the memory frequency to DDR3-1600MHz, the system doesn't want to boot at all? I have to use MemOK! to revert the setting to Auto again. What is this problem?
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I'm pretty sure everything here is like it's supposed to be. Let me know if I'm submitting anything incorrectly and I'll fix it.
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This is my first attempt at OCing my new rig. I may keep playing around with it to see if I can get the volts a little lower. Either way I think it's low enough that it wont hurt anything, even if it was at load voltage 24/7.

Edit: I know my Prime95 is a little messed up because the main thread messaging has errors in it which keep you from seeing when the test was started. If that prevents my OC from being accepted how do you fix the Prime95 log file error?
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Yeah it's likely that you need more vcore. I would recommend that you do some reading first, best place to start would be the first page of this thread, more specifically the first post.

Thanks, I did some reading and I found that the max TDP is often set to 200 or more.
Mine is at 135W. Also my Internal Core Current limit is set to 155.
While running IBT @max the multi sometimes drops to 44 or 43.
During prime it always stays at 45.
I know that it throttles because of max TDP, but I thought it might be useful to leave it at 135 to cut the temps.
Could these settings cause instability?
And are there any numbers from Intel for max Core Current?
Could too much damage the cpu?

There is a reason to set them to 200+, you remove the limitation of the motherboard to allow you to overclock. IBT is more taxing on SB, load wattage and vcore is higher than prime.

Yeah, if you're overclocking and don't set the turbo limits correctly it could cause instability through throttling. I don't believe Intel has a say in this, it is more to do with the motherboard manufacturer. No it won't damage the cpu, you could set it 500 and it won't, all you're doing is increasing the wattage limitation, doesn't mean that its going to use that much wattage but setting it allows the motherboard to provide the cpu with the nessasary power if needs it.


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@ kevin992002

Initial value = stock = auto.

CPU PLL information is available in the first post of the thread and in my BSOD 124 thread. Please take the time to read them. Thanks

I actually read the info in the OP regarding CPU PLL but it seems that OCers have a mixed recommendation between 1.4V and 1.7V as an initial value?

What instance will you ever need to use negative offset? According to raja of the ASUS ROG forum, the negative offset is a 'direct' subtraction from the VID while the positive one is not. How is this so?

If I use a Multimeter, is it hard to locate the Vcore pinouts in the p8z68-v/gen3 if it is already installed in the case?

Yeah 1.4 to 1.7 sounds right, not sure as to what you're asking.

You will use a negative offset for when your load voltage is a negative value from VID. It's pretty simple:

Say you need 1.385v for your overclock and your VID under load is 1.395 then you will need a negative offset of 0.010 (1.395 - 0.010 = 1.385v) = Negative offset

Say you need 1.405v for your overclock and your VID under load is 1.395 then you will need a positive offset of 0.010 (1.395 + 0.010 = 1.405v) = Positive offset

You may have to look around the internet to find the vcore points for your board, obviously that depends on the case you have and whether or not it's possible while it's mounted in the case. Only you know that.

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Originally Posted by Jayjr1105 View Post

Wonering if I did this right. To find my "sweet spot" for my PLL I clocked my multi at 50 with 1.4v and a 80mv offset. I ran though every PLL voltage from 1.5-1.8 and 1.725 PLL yielded the best results (let me boot into windows, ran a WEI and passmark test, and let me go about 1-2 minutes into P95 before crashing) Most times I would BSOD before the windows flag screen so I feel this was my optimized PLL

sounds about right, but it might be a better idea to reduce the overclock to 4.5ghz and test further with prime, however you're on the right track.


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I've also noticed one weird thing with my setup. When I set the memory frequency to "Auto", it automatically sets my RAM to the JEDEC settings of 1600MHz which is to be expected. But, when I set the memory frequency to DDR3-1600MHz, the system doesn't want to boot at all? I have to use MemOK! to revert the setting to Auto again. What is this problem?

Not sure, set it Ai clock tuner to XMP and that should do it.


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I'm pretty sure everything here is like it's supposed to be. Let me know if I'm submitting anything incorrectly and I'll fix it.
480
This is my first attempt at OCing my new rig. I may keep playing around with it to see if I can get the volts a little lower. Either way I think it's low enough that it wont hurt anything, even if it was at load voltage 24/7.

Edit: I know my Prime95 is a little messed up because the main thread messaging has errors in it which keep you from seeing when the test was started. If that prevents my OC from being accepted how do you fix the Prime95 log file error?

Looks okay, however could you list your cooling for me please.

Regarding Prime window, it should auto scroll with each line of text. The only fix I know is close and re-open tongue.gif
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Sorry, cooling is the CM 212+. And I took your advice and disabled spread spectrum (thought I had already but I guess I had left it on auto). Will that affect stability? I.e. do I need to run stress testing again after changing that setting?

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Sorry, cooling is the CM 212+. And I took your advice and disabled spread spectrum (thought I had already but I guess I had left it on auto). Will that affect stability? I.e. do I need to run stress testing again after changing that setting?

Thanks again for all the help.

Thanks, I'll add you now smile.gif

Disabling spread spectrum will lock the Base clock to 100 and no it shouldn't affect stability, therefore no reason to run prime again. Enjoy your overclock thumb.gif






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BIOS TEMPLATES

I have created a sheet for BIOS templates, it could be a reference point to other's including oneself and a quick 'copy and paste' whenever required in other threads/posts etc.

Those that have posted their stable systems please spare a few minutes of your time to do this. One more thing, these are the ones I’m after:
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sounds about right, but it might be a better idea to reduce the overclock to 4.5ghz and test further with prime, however you're on the right track.

My goal was just to find my sweet spot PLL. I already had a 12 hour run at 4.5 with PLL left stock 1.8. May try for 4.7 tops, I hadn't planned on staying at 5.0 other than for this experiment.

Another question. What might be the Spread Spectrum equivalent be on my Intel board? My base clock sits at the odd 99.8 as well. Thanks
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sounds about right, but it might be a better idea to reduce the overclock to 4.5ghz and test further with prime, however you're on the right track.

Another question. What might be the Spread Spectrum equivalent be on my Intel board? My base clock sits at the odd 99.8 as well. Thanks

Disable it, it should lock the base clock to 100 smile.gif
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