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Yeah, but you could run RealTemp and have the clock running and not be running P95, so this is really worthless...

thats why the time needs to be visible as well as prime95 workers visible, you can compare realtemp time to prime95 start time. prime95 also needs to be running at the time of the ss. Doesnt stop someone from photoshopping the whole deal, theres a bit of trust involved too.
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Yeah, but you could run RealTemp and have the clock running and not be running P95, so this is really worthless...

thats why the time needs to be visible as well as prime95 workers visible, you can compare realtemp time to prime95 start time. prime95 also needs to be running at the time of the ss. Doesnt stop someone from photoshopping the whole deal, theres a bit of trust involved too.


Cheating to join a stability club is only cheating yourself. I don't flash the sandy super stable signature for bragging rights, I flash it so that people will come to this thread, be educated about stability and get interested in having a truly useful overclock that can do anything they throw at it 24/7. If I help even one or two overclockers get stable, I'm happy.

 

Photoshopping to join this club is ... not worth my time to even rant about...

 

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Oh yea, i have another observation to make: 1.4v pll for the 2600k too even at 4.9... is it possible that the required pll voltage varies by motherboard, not cpu? I wonder if that is what ressurected my 2600k, not the deep cleaning?



I think different motherboards may have different voltage settings to set. My MSI Z68 GD65 G3 doesn't work well with alot of the the information given by the OP at the start of the thread.
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Cheating to join a stability club is only cheating yourself. I don't flash the sandy super stable signature for bragging rights, I flash it so that people will come to this thread, be educated about stability and get interested in having a truly useful overclock that can do anything they throw at it 24/7. If I help even one or two overclockers get stable, I'm happy.

Photoshopping to join this club is ... not worth my time to even rant about...

Its amazing how much understanding how to properly overclock/ ensure stability is a lost art. Just the other day i had someone i know want to know my settings when i was talking about my progress as he had a 2500k/same mobo... i was just about to tell him how to go about testing for basic stability and how to work his way up to being stable when he said he just wanted to copy the settings... i went doh.gif irl needless to say a day later he said he went back to stock...

Sometimes i wonder if overclocking/water cooling going mainstream-ish was a bad thing. Too many people expect push button receive bacon

only real new trick i learned from thiese threads was that certain FFT's in prime95 stress out SB more then others. quite handy having a 30 minute stress test run between changes instead of 6 hrs of linpack(my old 'short' test). Its nice having a place where everyones notes are consolidated too. cuts down on a lot of the needed experimentation as i was getting to 'know' the sandy bridge architecture (previous arch was core 2 duo.. bit of a learning curve there)
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Its amazing how much understanding how to properly overclock/ ensure stability is a lost art. Just the other day i had someone i know want to know my settings when i was talking about my progress as he had a 2500k/same mobo... i was just about to tell him how to go about testing for basic stability and how to work his way up to being stable when he said he just wanted to copy the settings... i went doh.gif irl needless to say a day later he said he went back to stock...
Sometimes i wonder if overclocking/water cooling going mainstream-ish was a bad thing. Too many people expect push button receive bacon
only real new trick i learned from thiese threads was that certain FFT's in prime95 stress out SB more then others. quite handy having a 30 minute stress test run between changes instead of 6 hrs of linpack(my old 'short' test). Its nice having a place where everyones notes are consolidated too. cuts down on a lot of the needed experimentation as i was getting to 'know' the sandy bridge architecture (previous arch was core 2 duo.. bit of a learning curve there)

The ideal situation is 1 setting fits all. Maybe one day we can hope smile.gif
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Not really, the one setting fitting all is called stock tongue.gif.
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Well. I'm back at reading about settings and voltage this or what not. While I was running prime yesterday after 6 hours (this is the second 12 hour run) one of my worker's stopped. No BSOD, no freezing or anyhthing, he just said "i'm done" error was a more cpu voltage error. So before I added more I went to go look into the matter. unless I'm misunderstanding what I have been reading it appears that I need experiment more with voltage rather than "just add more". I think my spastic Vcore is what caused it. I'm trying to learn enough about the settings to get a more stable 1.360 voltage..before it would jump from 1.360 to 1.376 to 1.398 or somthing like that. I want to try to run my next test at a more constant 1.375 or 1.380 is possible. Any tips or helpful advice would be great!

Erked me...silly thing ran 12 of prime just fine 2 days ago:( ohh well I'll get it:thumb:
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Well. I'm back at reading about settings and voltage this or what not. While I was running prime yesterday after 6 hours (this is the second 12 hour run) one of my worker's stopped. No BSOD, no freezing or anyhthing, he just said "i'm done" error was a more cpu voltage error. So before I added more I went to go look into the matter. unless I'm misunderstanding what I have been reading it appears that I need experiment more with voltage rather than "just add more". I think my spastic Vcore is what caused it. I'm trying to learn enough about the settings to get a more stable 1.360 voltage..before it would jump from 1.360 to 1.376 to 1.398 or somthing like that. I want to try to run my next test at a more constant 1.375 or 1.380 is possible. Any tips or helpful advice would be great!

Erked me...silly thing ran 12 of prime just fine 2 days ago:( ohh well I'll get it:thumb:


Are you sure that it wasn't that P95 ran out of available memory and stopped a worker due to insufficient resources? That can happen when you try to push the available memory use to levels above 95% or when you have the memory use at 95% and then you open another application (or windows update tries to run, or pretty much any process tries to start).

 

Check to make sure it's not something as simple as that before you assume that it's an unstable overclock.

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prime95 99% of the time throws a rounding error if its going to do anything but bluescreen for me. When i start a stress test its hands off after i push that start button. most ill do is run music or talk to someone on aim.

Stability is always a relative thing for overclocking. The only true stable is Stock. and even at stock you have random bit flips in memory which becomes proportionally more probable with more memory. The whole point of 12/24 hour stress testing is your running somthing thats HARDER and more sensitive to memory errors then you ever will.

I have in the past seen certain overclocks that were for instance stable with super pi and prime95, but unstable in linx

and likewise stable in linx and unstable in prime95, I have also seen stable in every cpu stress test i could throw it at, but run 3dmark(at those days, 2003 was the latest) and forget about it. This is why i have developed this stress test method i use as my final test:

I know its old, but i run RTHDRIBL with the skull, and maximum effects to drive the frame rate down. I have to extend the window across two monitors to bring it under 60 FPS (if your video card can run it faster then your monitor, its not stressed enough)

Then ill run linx using a test large enough to use up the rest of my avail ram. if that combo is stable for 12~24 hours i consider my computer stable enough for what i do with it(mostly gaming)


RTHDRIBL is also really neat for detecting graphics card stability issues, you see bright green/blue flashes whenever there are errors in the processing biggrin.gif



I dont know, maybe im a nutcase, but thats what i do when i build a new system or change a system-changing part such as a psu or mobo. If its somthing simple as new ram or new cpu ill do the usual cpu/ram tests and then if i notice anything that could be stability issues while using the computer ill do the full one
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Are you sure that it wasn't that P95 ran out of available memory and stopped a worker due to insufficient resources? That can happen when you try to push the available memory use to levels above 95% or when you have the memory use at 95% and then you open another application (or windows update tries to run, or pretty much any process tries to start).

Check to make sure it's not something as simple as that before you assume that it's an unstable overclock.

That is possible. I did crank the crap out of the memory usage for this run. So, you think I need to drop my RAM usage down just a few hairs so it won't exeeced 95% total usage? The way I had prime going it was using 90-91% and I was power browsing the net when it happends. Google chrome with 5-10 tabs can be RAM hungery. I might run it again. I set it back at stock in the mean time. I will re enter my settings and not use my rig while its priming lol.

However, I still want to see if I can fine tune my voltage some. This fancy mobo has all kinds of options and I don't quite under stand when it come's to the voltage. Well I kind of understand them. I do know there is a way to get a more stable Vcore and I think I would like to try it:) I'll report back after the next prime run. I'll do it tonight and leave it overnight so I won't be tempted to use it to browse the net. Thank you both for you input!
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