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I'm toying with this approach now so far so good. I thought it appeared setting up like this would work thanks for the confirmation... more reboots and tweaking ahead for me ... thumb.gif
    
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I'm toying with this approach now so far so good. I thought it appeared setting up like this would work thanks for the confirmation... more reboots and tweaking ahead for me ... thumb.gif

Great! Needs a lot of patience but it's fine tuning after all... wink.gif

Good thing is the Additional Turbo Voltage has 0.004 steps instead of the regular offset's 0.005...bad thing is in practice chances are you instantly see a plus or minus 0.005V offset adjustment (if you log Vcore). The Additional Turbo Voltage is not as "responsive" but it does the job, it just needs lots of patience and extra time for testings. All i can tell is it surely works fine... wink.gif

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PS: Yesterday i finished the first sessions (more than 8 hours testing in total) for the 5Ghz using offset and additional offset voltage...bad thing is i must decide to go to either the W/C road (85C peak temp for 30minutes Prime runs with 14C ambient temp means that the 12hour Prime session will get me real close to 90C) or just wait for my open bench case to get here and take it from there...
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Great! Needs a lot of patience but it's fine tuning after all... wink.gif
Good thing is the Additional Turbo Voltage has 0.004 steps instead of the regular offset's 0.005...bad thing is in practice chances are you instantly see a plus or minus 0.005V offset adjustment (if you log Vcore). The Additional Turbo Voltage is not as "responsive" but it does the job, it just needs lots of patience and extra time for testings. All i can tell is it surely works fine... wink.gif
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PS: Yesterday i finished the first sessions (more than 8 hours testing in total) for the 5Ghz using offset and additional offset voltage...bad thing is i must decide to go to either the W/C road (85C peak temp for 30minutes Prime runs with 14C ambient temp means that the 12hour Prime session will get me real close to 90C) or just wait for my open bench case to get here and take it from there...

Nice I noticed the .004 steps pretty quickly. It took a while to find the right setting to get into windows is a bit high (1.5) so I went ahead and bumped the multiplier to 51 tested stability quickly then started folding. Want to see what heat production is like at 1.5v. It's not wanting to go into windows at 52 with the same settings. I had 1.48 x 50 stable with high temp of 76 folding and 85 prime. Bit high but with the protection plan Im not overly concerned.... Not to mention gaming it floats 50-60s C . Think personally a lot of people focus to much on highs they pull pushing their systems to unrealistic loads. Eventually I will settle on a speed and I will make a entry. Hardest part will be stopping folding. biggrin.gif
    
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I don't fully get this Additional Turbo Voltage, how much should I put it? 0.004V? What about my offset voltage then?
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I don't get it too. What does it specifically do?
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I don't fully get this Additional Turbo Voltage, how much should I put it? 0.004V? What about my offset voltage then?

what multiplier are you trying to hit? likely its going to take more than that.. You just use it to set your overclock voltage and set offset to minus .005.

So you go in and reset your offset voltage to minimum -.005. Then you go and set the additional turbo voltage to the amount you need to hit your clock speed. Took a few boots to find a amount that would work with my multiplier. Not thinking of the exact amount off the top of my head but like .136 or maybe .146 that got me into windows where I could see the voltage when the cpu was turboing with a x50 multiplier. From there I can adjust it and fine tune it.
    
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I don't get it too. What does it specifically do?

It is letting you keep your downclocked voltage extremely low (1.6ghz less than 1v) and attain a nice high turbo overclock.
    
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I don't get it too. What does it specifically do?

It is letting you keep your downclocked voltage extremely low (1.6ghz less than 1v) and attain a nice high turbo overclock.

There can be a problem with that, ie. voltage too low whilst idle could cause bsod. If I understand it correctly it is the turbo voltage, increasing that allows the voltage to rise with turbo (overclocked) so you get your desired voltage under load, however, as you are compensating the load voltage with additional turbo voltage and not the actual vcore I suspect the idle voltage will be much lower obviously because turbo will not have kicked in until you put it on load, therefore causing bsod. If you have the LLC levels and all of that set correctly in combination with the additional turbo voltage then of ourse it could work, however I would much rather take the traditional approach and just use the CPU vcore voltage rather than turbo voltage.

Summary,

Turbo voltage effects load voltage whilst turbo kicks in.

CPU voltage in general effects both idle and when turbo (overclocked state) kicks in.


Just my two cents, hope it makes sense. smile.gif

Note to everyone, I'll update the spreadsheet in a bit, thanks for your patience. smile.gif

Never did I think this thread will go above 700 pages lol tongue.gif
Edited by munaim1 - 2/11/12 at 9:26am
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I don't fully get this Additional Turbo Voltage, how much should I put it? 0.004V? What about my offset voltage then?

Just think of it like a secondary plain offset (but this has only positive value) that it's being added up only under load (when your turbo freq gets enabled) nothing more... wink.gif
Edited by fommof - 2/11/12 at 9:34am
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Turbo voltage effects load voltage whilst turbo kicks in.

Exactly. thumb.gif

The "plain" offset affects the Vcore at all states no matter if it's idle or under load (so the Turbo kicks in and the multis increase).

The additional turbo voltage kicks in only under load (again when the Turbo kicks in and the multis increase) and it's just an extra increment (not exactly proportional though comparing to the offset or at least not as obvious)

PS: if there is no thread about the offset OC yet, showing dynamic VIDs and so forth maybe i could be useful.
Edited by fommof - 2/11/12 at 9:40am
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