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Try this
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Thermal Throttling, CE1 & Internal PLL Overvolt
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C3,C6, C state Support
Under North Bridge
Disable IGD multi-monitor If you are not using it.


Thanks for the tips We Gone, I'm going to let it run a while on the settings i have at the moment now that it seems to be stable but if i start getting any instability then I'll get changing those ones. What is IGD multi-monitor? never heard of that
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Hows my BIOS settings look like? (finally got BIOS screenshot thing working biggrin.gif)

I might step down to 4.5GHz because 1.4v+ is maybe too much for my opinion :/

Why don't you use the "By All Cores" option instead of setting each core to x46 separately?

Do you really need the "PLL Overvoltage" to be enabled at this multiplier? (personally i had to enabled it at x50)

"CPU Current Capability" and "Duty Control" settings seem a bit extreme for the clock you are running...

I'd set the "CPU Spread Spectrum" to either Enabled or Disabled instead of Auto. At least you could monitor your results playing with this option and know where it helps you (i am big anti-fan of "Auto" options, i need to know exactly which has effect to what and how).

Why you have increased the VCCIO?

I would disable "Execute Disable Bit" just in case...

I would also set manually the RAM timings putting the nominal values of your sticks (Primary timings only)

Since you are OCing using the offset (props to you sir), you could also use the "Additional Turbo Voltage". You can increase/decrease by 0.004V and you could set your offset to get way less than 1V Vcore when idling and compensate the load Vcore with increasing the "Additional Turbo Voltage" (at least that's what i am doing, not fan at all of the fixed clock and Vcore, no reason not to use the Speedstep feature)...personally i only use negative Offset (from 3.4Ghz to 5Ghz) so when idling the Vcore is from 0.85 to 0.95V (depends of the specific frequency, i haven't optimize all the frequencies from 3.4 to 5Ghz). Then adjust the Additional Turbo Voltage to give me the needed Vcore under load...

Also since you use the offset you get advantage of the Dynamic VID. If you see maximum peak Vcore running Prime 1.4V then in everyday use expect a lot less. Use AIDA64 to do the logging, do a session of your everyday pc usage (games, encoding, browsing, anything you do) and take a look at AIDA's statistics, especially the max peak Vore...for instance, while the max peak Vcore i got using Prime (12h) at 4.8Ghz was 1.4V and 1.424V for Linx AVX,. in reality i haven' seen more than 1.352V max peak (lot's of gaming, encoding, browsing while AIDA logs everything)



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PS: Please keep in mind i own a 2600K and an Asus P8P67 evo

 

  1. By All Cores is preferable to individual core settings, as fommof points out.
  2. PLL Overvoltage is only enabled if your computer fails to POST or boot into Windows at a very high frequency. I found that I needed it for 4.9GHz and 5.0 GHz.
  3. CPU Current Capability at 140% and Duty Control to "Extreme" are good settings! Extreme Duty Control simply uses current (Amperage) to limit the VRM, rather than throttling the VRM by temperature. I used to use the Standard Duty Control setting and even at my 4.7 GHz OC I noticed that I was getting "silent power throttling" in benchmarks, especially in IBT. As for the 140% Current Capability, 140% is ideal for any overclock, provided your voltages and temperatures are safe, it's much the same as the Extreme Duty Control. Current Capability simply allows the core to draw more power for a given clock, making that clock more efficient. I noticed that even at 4.6 and 4.7 GHz that by changing this setting from 130% to 140% that my Flop/s increased significantly, as did my benchmarks. In fact, my 4.7 GHz benchmarks are comparable to many "automatic" settings producing 4.8 GHz on the clocks. A finely tuned 4.7 GHz setting will perform equally well (or better than) a poorly tuned 4.8 GHz setting, and these settings make that possible.
  4. I agree, either disable or enable CPU Spread Spectrum. I personally find that my OCs are more efficient with it disabled, but I needed it enabled for 5.0 GHz.
  5. I too, want to know why your VCCIO is so high. 1.0500V is a preferable setting in most cases. 1.1500V seems very high to me for that clock speed.
  6. I haven't had any problem with Execute Disable Bit being enabled at any clock speed. Is there a case for disabling it? I'd like to know.
  7. RAM timings aren't necessary to adjust, if you're using XMP DIMMs, as they'll read the information right off of the SPD and should be timed perfectly. The only reason to set them manually would be if you have RAM that isn't setting itself properly by SPD, such as with a DIMM that is not on the "qualified hardware list" for the motherboard and BIOS version that you have, or if you're overclocking your RAM.

 

... Sometimes I feel incredibly stupid ...

 

 

I'm only just now finding out about additional turbo voltage...  I probably saw that in the BIOS a hundred times and read it in this thread a few dozen times as well. For some reason I never noticed it... doh.gif

 

 

Wow.... Alright, so I'm going to go back in tweak things to reduce my idle voltage significantly and re-do my entire OC profile accordingly! I don't need to use nearly so much offset voltage now!

 

 

Yay, I get to have more fun OCing again!

 

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So been playing with it and I have gotten it dialed in more accurately to my old 5.0ghz overclock. It's still giving just a bit more power though. Using -.005 offset with +.124 additional turbo voltage. 140% overcurrent and 75% LLC with PLL overvoltage disabled. Went back to my XMP settings because I was tightening / tweaking memory at the same time as doing this and ran into stability issues (dumb idea always adjust one thing at a time). I knew better anyhow back on XMP but had found stability at some tighter timings. Think I had 7 7 7 21 1T stable on this 7 8 8 24 2T ram with abit of extra juice. Had no issues for a couple days folding but got a couple folding errors earlier and ran into the classic not sure whats causing it problem from adjusting to many things at a time. Im still a ways from making a submission.

Think I need to redo heatsink. I get a higher spread than I believe I should on max temps and even idle temps. How close should the cores temps be to each other? I get up to 12c seperation. For some stupid reason I decided not to use AS7 I had sitting around or Noctua's paste and ordered ceramique ...after reading some reviews I see I should have used either the AS7 I have sitting around or Noctuas as it seems that ceramique 2 is bunk. I'll likely reseat heatsink tomorrow and maybe lap the processor a bit.
    
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Great! Needs a lot of patience but it's fine tuning after all... wink.gif
Good thing is the Additional Turbo Voltage has 0.004 steps instead of the regular offset's 0.005...bad thing is in practice chances are you instantly see a plus or minus 0.005V offset adjustment (if you log Vcore). The Additional Turbo Voltage is not as "responsive" but it does the job, it just needs lots of patience and extra time for testings. All i can tell is it surely works fine... wink.gif
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PS: Yesterday i finished the first sessions (more than 8 hours testing in total) for the 5Ghz using offset and additional offset voltage...bad thing is i must decide to go to either the W/C road (85C peak temp for 30minutes Prime runs with 14C ambient temp means that the 12hour Prime session will get me real close to 90C) or just wait for my open bench case to get here and take it from there...

Hi fommof. Congrats on the big overclock and stable run! I'm just looking at your data. In a room with a freezing ambient of 14C, less than 1.4V, and one of the best air coolers in existence I would not expect your temps to approach 85-90C. I would really think that your temps should be 15C less, somewhere around 70C. You may want to evaluate your cooler mount, TIM, airflow in case etc. Maybe something is amiss? I bet if you fooled around with different intake and exhaust scenarios you could shave off many degrees!
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How many of you have ran over 1.45 for very long i would like to get 5ghz but i thk its going to need around 1.45+ 4800mhz runs 1.416 but it failed linx at 1.44. I also use offset volts so it does not use the full volts 24/7.
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It is letting you keep your downclocked voltage extremely low (1.6ghz less than 1v) and attain a nice high turbo overclock.
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Exactly. thumb.gif
The "plain" offset affects the Vcore at all states no matter if it's idle or under load (so the Turbo kicks in and the multis increase).
The additional turbo voltage kicks in only under load (again when the Turbo kicks in and the multis increase) and it's just an extra increment (not exactly proportional though comparing to the offset or at least not as obvious)
PS: if there is no thread about the offset OC yet, showing dynamic VIDs and so forth maybe i could be useful.

So why would one want to use additional turbo voltage when you can get the same result just by fiddling with Offset Vcore and LLC?
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What settings is everyone using for Custom Blend on Prime 95?
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I just set the memory to 6000mb since i have 8Gb and leave the rest as is.
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How many of you have ran over 1.45 for very long i would like to get 5ghz but i thk its going to need around 1.45+ 4800mhz runs 1.416 but it failed linx at 1.44. I also use offset volts so it does not use the full volts 24/7.

Hell, I needed 1.488 for 4.8 to be stable. Seems fine. I am using offset + at .1 to stay stable at 4.8. I tried 5.0 and it was taking me to 1.54V to be stable. mad.gif
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So why would one want to use additional turbo voltage when you can get the same result just by fiddling with Offset Vcore and LLC?

The others described the benefits better than I did. Basically using offset voltage alone my 1.6ghz stepped down speed was pulling over 1.1 volts. Now using turbo voltage its under 1v. Unless I misunderstand what LLC does it's only kicking in when the processor needs more juice. It's helpful to stabilize that high clock but it shouldn't effect the lower voltage of the stepped speed. Maybe I am wrong but this was my observation. I am still working out the sweet spot but I just got done reseating heatsink and applying a better thermal compound.
    
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