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I wouldn't call that a horrible chip. It's about average to be honest. 4.5 @ 1.32V is normal. Why are you so worried about 5.0? Sure its a nice achievement but your 580 is still your bottleneck even with your CPU clocked as low as 4.0 GHz. Get a nice stable 4.5-4.7 and call it a day. thumb.gif
And get that PLL down some. way too high.

I'm trying to stream Dota 2, and it reduces my ingame FPS. Hoping higher clocks would reduce this
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I'm trying to stream Dota 2, and it reduces my ingame FPS. Hoping higher clocks would reduce this

that likely has more to do with your graphics card then your cpu. your spending gpu clocks and pci-e bandwidth to copy the framebuffer to ram. used to be much more extreme back in agp days where copying to the host was normal pci speed


I was reviewing the last few pages and i forgot at the time a technique i used back when undervolting my dothan laptops that could come in handy. I dont like playing the chance game to stability ever, more often then not the most importaint work you do will be happening while idle. back on the dothan laptops i had to use a third party speedstep utility to accomplish the undervolt but you can hard code it into the bios now.

set your voltage to fixed and dial in your 'goal' voltage and manually set the all cores multiplier to 16, and then run your stress test. errors are less likely to happen while idle because your cpu isnt doing anything... too bad windows is a bastard about any little tiny prick of cpu load and it flips the multiplier all the way to max. this effect might be for some of you be masking underlying instability which may be leading to memory corruption

I personally dont see a point given the windows instant transition on load, its better for your oc if you minimize the delta in voltage instead of maximize it. especially as your making a big deal about 1~3 watts

kind of funny that linux has had proper cpu governors since windows 2000 days and microsoft still hasnt figured them out. with the 'conservative' governer it will assuming you started at idle only step the multiplier up one step if the cpu is greater then 95% loaded, and so on, and it will only step it down if its spending a certain amount of time under 20% load. So besides the 10 or so second ramp up time, the linux kernel fishes for the 'fast enough' speed for what you need. Speedstep gives voltages for each multiplier which some of you are seeing with 'auto' voltage

http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/cpu-freq/governors.txt some more reading if you got a linux system, from developer perspective, google can give you the howto on switching governers
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that likely has more to do with your graphics card then your cpu. your spending gpu clocks and pci-e bandwidth to copy the framebuffer to ram. used to be much more extreme back in agp days where copying to the host was normal pci speed

streaming is pretty much all cpu work
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New submission at 4.8Ghz - 19.5hrs
Changed over to a custom water loop from the NH-D14.

I wish I had a tad bit better CPU because I have 1 core that I need to jack up the voltage for. I'll try a 4.9ghz pass if I can stay under 1.5 volts.

Thanks

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streaming is pretty much all cpu work

then delegate it to a core all on its own, i have yet to see any games that really use more then two cores even at 4.5 ghz, or even 100% of a single core. you need a new streaming program if you cant real time stream unless your encoding 1:1 in pixels in h.264 style in which case you might like the idea of HD vid capture card just for the coprocessor(iirc, some of them were rather fancy processors for hd mpeg4)
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Thanks for the info on this guide. Was able to effortlessly get a stable 4.7 @ 1.375v
Seems 4.8 takes significantly more voltage, though. Couldn't even boot with 1.44
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I haven't read through the 7k posts yet, but I read through the guides though, but I'm still confused about something.

So if I don't want to push more than 500mhz extra, all I really need to do is go through and change the cpu multi to x40-42 and run stability tests, and if it passes I'm good ?

I want turbo to still work, so do I raise the turbo multi per core to the same as cpu multi or leave them at their stock x34-37?
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I haven't read through the 7k posts yet, but I read through the guides though, but I'm still confused about something.
So if I don't want to push more than 500mhz extra, all I really need to do is go through and change the cpu multi to x40-42 and run stability tests, and if it passes I'm good ?
I want turbo to still work, so do I raise the turbo multi per core to the same as cpu multi or leave them at their stock x34-37?

Overclocking is done strictly through the turbo multiplier so any changes will be made through that. At Idle state the cpu will sit at 1.6 GHz and on demand it will ramp up to whatever you have the turbo multi set at.
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Overclocking is done strictly through the turbo multiplier so any changes will be made through that. At Idle state the cpu will sit at 1.6 GHz and on demand it will ramp up to whatever you have the turbo multi set at.

So to confirm, all I need to do is change the multi's and leave everything else alone? I don't want to touch voltage yet.

And do I change the turbo multi's per core or leave them stock, and the cpu multi take precedent?
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So to confirm, all I need to do is change the multi's and leave everything else alone? I don't want to touch voltage yet.
And do I change the turbo multi's per core or leave them stock, and the cpu multi take precedent?

By leaving the voltages alone you mean leave them on auto? If so then sure but don't get crazy on your overclock, the "auto" voltage feature on boards almost always give way too much juice to the processor. My old Intel board gave my cpu 1.4V with an "auto" overclock of only 4.2.
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