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Generaly speaking,if you look at the "caused by"in your minidump screen,it is Graphics driver/hardware issues,hence the "atikmdag.sys"in that collumn.Hope this helps.
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@Kevin,
no recommendations in regards to that setting. It is an additional feature, one that is not required to be altered but still could be if you wish, no preference. thumb.gif

But more and more people are using this feature right now? I think this was started by shadowfax, not 100% sure on this?
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Got a hardware failure during prime on one thread. Small FFT 32k. I'm guessing another bump in Vcore?
Thoughts?

Load Line Calibration: Ultra High
VRM Frequency: 350
Phase Control: Extreme
Duty Control: Extreme
CPU Current Capability: 140%
CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
Offset Mode Sign: ( + )
CPU Offset Voltage: 0.105
DRAM Voltage: 1.5v
VCCIO Voltage: AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55v
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled


Depends on your multi and what your proc vcore needs are. Considering the high (+) value you have set for offset I'd say vcore may be to high I would consider bumping your CPU PLL to say 1.6 and retest first. It would be nice to know what your idle and load vcore are with your current settings. Do you know what the stop value was ie 124 etc.? You could also disable Spread Spectrum which benefits a higher block which I assume is at 100 or stock. To quickly confirm your vcore & PLL requirements use a custom blend 1344 and or 1792 test with max memory run for 5 minutes min. each test. If you have not done so already it would be best to find this in manual vcore mode first before converting to power saving offset mode. While in manual mode (all power saving features off) take note of the minimum and max vcore you need for stability at default and overclocked using the above test so you know what to look for with your offset mode reported vcore at idle & load. This will give you the tools needed for setting up a power saving mode.

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But more and more people are using this feature right now? I think this was started by shadowfax, not 100% sure on this?

Whats the point was in this 'additional voltage'? I remember that people said you can get your idle voltage, low as 0.8something, but Im using only offset and I get it there thinking.gif
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Whats the point was in this 'additional voltage'? I remember that people said you can get your idle voltage, low as 0.8something, but Im using only offset and I get it there thinking.gif

You can play around with offset, LLC, and additional turbo voltage to get a nice curve for power load distribution. For example if you use less LLC than extreme, you will have a more broad spectrum of voltage so that idle speed won't have an unnecessary amount of voltage and load will also be just where you want it.
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@Kevin,
no recommendations in regards to that setting. It is an additional feature, one that is not required to be altered but still could be if you wish, no preference. thumb.gif

But more and more people are using this feature right now? I think this was started by shadowfax, not 100% sure on this?

Just because more and more people are using it doesn't make it into a general requirement. As mentioned it is an additional feature, when used it allows you to increase the load turbo voltage, however increasing it will require you reduce your load vcore and in turn reduce your idle voltage which might or might not cause issues.

Will update OP in a moment. thumb.gif
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Whats the point was in this 'additional voltage'? I remember that people said you can get your idle voltage, low as 0.8something, but Im using only offset and I get it there thinking.gif
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Originally Posted by munaim1 View Post

Just because more and more people are using it doesn't make it into a general requirement. As mentioned it is an additional feature, when used it allows you to increase the load turbo voltage, however increasing it will require you reduce your load vcore and in turn reduce your idle voltage which might or might not cause issues.
Will update OP in a moment. thumb.gif

Yeah, I was just trying to know if this feature is like an advantage to us and so you can add it to your guide. But I think you are against using it, no?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MooMoo View Post

Whats the point was in this 'additional voltage'? I remember that people said you can get your idle voltage, low as 0.8something, but Im using only offset and I get it there thinking.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by munaim1 View Post

Just because more and more people are using it doesn't make it into a general requirement. As mentioned it is an additional feature, when used it allows you to increase the load turbo voltage, however increasing it will require you reduce your load vcore and in turn reduce your idle voltage which might or might not cause issues.
Will update OP in a moment. thumb.gif

Yeah, I was just trying to know if this feature is like an advantage to us and so you can add it to your guide. But I think you are against using it, no?

I wouldn't say I'm against it:

Here are the PRO's and CON's:

PRO:

Using additional turbo voltage allows you to increase the turbo load voltage, thus reducing the core voltage and the idle voltage which could also reduce power consumption and temps at idle*1


CON:

As mentioned, the idle voltage will obviously be lesser as you reduce the core voltage, however as we know, SB does suffer from idle random bsods*2 and this could probably increase the chances of it happening.



*1 My thoughts in regards to power consumption and idle temps:

The difference in power consumption will probably next to nothing, but if you're concious about that then by all means reduce the vcore and use additional turbo voltage. Same applies to the temps, but to me and a lot of other's, IDLE temps are not important, you may be able to reduce the idle temps by 1c by being able to reduce the idle voltage but is it really worth it especially knowing how SB has the IDLE bug? that brings me to point 2:

*2 IDLE random bsods:

Well as you know LLC plays a part in it and I hope I don't have to explain why at this stage (more info click on the IDLE bsod thread in my sig). The additional turbo voltage is quite similar to LLC and IMO that's probably why Asus has removed it from their BIOS rev.


That's just my reason for not using it tongue.gif

EDIT:

Just to reiterate, I'm not saying this feature is bad, quite the opposite actually, using it correctly allows for a more 'efficient' overclock without bsods and instability which is obviously a good thing but for me it's not worth it.


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i too dont really see a point in reducing idle voltage. you could MAYBE argue it in the case of laptops but there is a bit of irony in the fact that people are nickel and dimeing idle power consumption when they think its just fine to give the cpu 1.45+ volts to get 4.8~5 ghz+ especially when its easy to do similar tests to mine that showed that 1.38v on a 2500k to 1.45v was +80 watts, i imagine 2600k+ is worse
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I wouldn't say I'm against it:
Here are the PRO's and CON's:
PRO:
Using additional turbo voltage allows you to increase the turbo load voltage, thus reducing the core voltage and the idle voltage which could also reduce power consumption and temps at idle*1
CON:
As mentioned, the idle voltage will obviously be lesser as you reduce the core voltage, however as we know, SB does suffer from idle random bsods*2 and this could probably increase the chances of it happening.
*1 My thoughts in regards to power consumption and idle temps:
The difference in power consumption will probably next to nothing, but if you're concious about that then by all means reduce the vcore and use additional turbo voltage. Same applies to the temps, but to me and a lot of other's, IDLE temps are not important, you may be able to reduce the idle temps by 1c by being able to reduce the idle voltage but is it really worth it especially knowing how SB has the IDLE bug? that brings me to point 2:
*2 IDLE random bsods:
Well as you know LLC plays a part in it and I hope I don't have to explain why at this stage (more info click on the IDLE bsod thread in my sig). The additional turbo voltage is quite similar to LLC and IMO that's probably why Asus has removed it from their BIOS rev.
That's just my reason for not using it tongue.gif
EDIT:
Just to reiterate, I'm not saying this feature is bad, quite the opposite actually, using it correctly allows for a more 'efficient' overclock without bsods and instability which is obviously a good thing but for me it's not worth it.
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