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cpu current capability is overriding the cpu's internal TDP related current limiting (the 95W figure)
vrm freq is adjusting the efficiency of your vrm, asus says 350 khz is good enough for anything you can run without cryo
phase and duty control, set it to extreme, its there as a power saving feature but messes with the vcore stability, default behavior will only run the cpu with say, two voltage regulator modules instead of 8+ when the cpu is idle, or play round robin with them and similar stuff like that
i can dig up the link to the asus tech rep's writeup about it, but simple is to just copy these settings aside from LLC in the digi+VRM
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I think your motherboard has a extreme option for duty cycle, if not temperature is the suggested setting iirc

I asked a few pages back-- what are the differences in the settings MANUAL submenu under Phase Control? (ie. Extreme vs. Very Fast)


 

Understand what Phase Control technology is, it controls the number of active power phases in order to save power.

Your choices are standard, optimized, manual adjust and extreme,  extreme being the optimized default or at least those are what I see with my 1101 bios. Running anything other than extreme will reduce the number of power phases so I would not recommend it for overclocking, This means that in extreme mode all PWM phases are enabled all the time. However if you are under volting and down clocking your CPU it may be useful but I have no first hand experience experimenting with the setting. It may well work at a lower state (normal or High) at stock speed to give additional power saving but I would certainly test for stability if you choose to use it on a 24/7 desktop. 

 

Note the comments section right hand side

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I hope this helps.


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Considering your choice to use offset mode understand that implication. To use it means you are taking advantage of the power saving features baked in the the architecture. If you were to disable speedstep etc it would be counter productive given your mode of operation. The same is true with the PLL overvoltage adjustment if you enable with your PLL set below stock 1.8v it's oximoronic at best.


I don't know the difference is, but at high multi's I need PLL Overtoltage set to Enable or the machine hangs at the Windows splash screen.

And to achieve more than 4.9GHz stable at reasonable vcore, CPU PLL Voltage must be around 1.6500v. When it's at 1.80v (default), 5GHz requires 1.40v to Prime more than an hour--when lowered to somewhere between 1.55v and 1.70v, 5GHz only needs 1.36-1.38v. I didn't do any real testing--it's just one of those times you set something and see better results from then on. I am trying out high PLL voltages rigtht now without result, but there are a lot of voltage levels above 1.80v yet to test.
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I don't know the difference is, but at high multi's I need PLL Overtoltage set to Enable or the machine hangs at the Windows splash screen.
And to achieve more than 4.9GHz stable at reasonable vcore, CPU PLL Voltage must be around 1.6500v. When it's at 1.80v (default), 5GHz requires 1.40v to Prime more than an hour--when lowered to somewhere between 1.55v and 1.70v, 5GHz only needs 1.36-1.38v. I didn't do any real testing--it's just one of those times you set something and see better results from then on. I am trying out high PLL voltages rigtht now without result, but there are a lot of voltage levels above 1.80v yet to test.

Same here...low pll means less Vcore for me too... I keep it at my MOBO lowest(1.586 V) and am testing 5 ghz @ 1.46 Vcore...

I just want to ask something, if I enable PLL Overvoltage it will only overvolt the manual settings at boot, later it stays at manual setting, right?
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C3 and C6 are off.
The thing is I can stress it as much as I want but then it suddenly freezes by just chatting on Steam or browsing the forum.
I don't know what other voltages or settings I should try..

Read this post by Munami1, it will solve ur problem!
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BIOS TEMPLATES

I have created a sheet for BIOS templates, it could be a reference point to other's including oneself and a quick 'copy and paste' whenever required in other threads/posts etc.

Those that have posted their stable systems please spare a few minutes of your time to do this. One more thing, these are the ones I’m after:
  • Main BIOS page (The advanced settings main page)

  • Full AI tweaker Page including DRAM Timing control

  • CPU Configuration Page


Spread sheet contains voltage info, temperature info, cooling info, BIOS templates and separate sheets have been created for all of those, including one which filters the i5 and i7. This should be helpful to SB users and those looking to get SB, it also helps provide real world data regarding how the coolers are performing, what temps people are getting with the overclocks and at what kind of voltages, I think that it’s a great addition to OCN and one that SB and non SB users can benefit from.


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Ive been getting random idle BSOD 1-2 weeks after i got my new memory and OCed it. The last BSOD occured ~30min after leaving idle before going to bed, but the minidump didn't save. The other BSOD also occured while I left the computer on idle overnight, but I can't recall how long it was before the BSOD happened. There have been 4 BSOD in 2 weeks, 3 of which were 0x00000050, and one was 0x0000000a.

 

BIOS Settings (Click to show)

Going off of memory.

 

Ai Tweaker

  • Ai Overclock Tuner: Auto
  • Turbo Ratio: By All Cores
  • By All Cores: 46
  • Internal PLL Voltage: Disabled
  • Memory Frequency: 1600
  • DRAM Timing Control: 9-9-9-28-2T
  • EPU Power Saving MODE: Disabled


Ai Tweaker\ CPU Power Management >
  • CPU Ratio: Auto
  • Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
  • Turbo Mode: Enabled
  • Long Duration Power Limit: Auto
  • Long Duration Maintained: Auto
  • Short Duration Power Limit: Auto
  • Additional Turbo Voltage: Auto
  • Primary Plane Current Limit: Auto


Ai Tweaker (in the DIGI+ VRM section)
  • Load-Line Calibration: High
  • VRM Frequency: Auto
  • VRM Spread Spectrum: Disabled
  • Phase Control: Optimized
  • Duty Control: T.Probe
  • CPU Current Capability: 120%
  • CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
  • Offset Mode Sign: +
  • CPU Offset Voltage: 0.035V
  • DRAM Voltage: 1.5V
  • VCCSA Voltage: Auto
  • VCCIO Voltage: 1.1V
  • CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
  • PCH Voltage: Auto
  • CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled


Advanced\ CPU Configuration >
  • CPU Ratio: Auto
  • Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Enabled
  • Active Processor Cores: All
  • Limit CPUID Maximum: Disabled
  • Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
  • Intel Virtualization Technology: Enabled
  • Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
  • Turbo Mode: Enabled
  • CPU C1E: Enabled
  • CPU C3 Report: Disabled
  • CPU C6 Report: Disabled

 

Note: The last BSOD was with the following settings:

 

Ai Tweaker

  • Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
  • BLCK/PCIE Frequency: 100.0
  • Turbo Ratio: By All Cores
  • By All Cores: 46
  • Internal PLL Voltage: Disabled
  • Memory Frequency: 1866
  • DRAM Timing Control: 9-9-9-27-1T  7tWCL
  • EPU Power Saving MODE: Disabled


Ai Tweaker\ CPU Power Management >
  • CPU Ratio: Auto
  • Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
  • Turbo Mode: Enabled
  • Long Duration Power Limit: Auto
  • Long Duration Maintained: Auto
  • Short Duration Power Limit: Auto
  • Additional Turbo Voltage: Auto
  • Primary Plane Current Limit: Auto


Ai Tweaker (in the DIGI+ VRM section)
  • Load-Line Calibration: High
  • VRM Frequency: Auto
  • VRM Spread Spectrum: Disabled
  • Phase Control: Optimized
  • Duty Control: T.Probe
  • CPU Current Capability: 120%
  • CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
  • Offset Mode Sign: +
  • CPU Offset Voltage: 0.040V
  • DRAM Voltage: 1.35V
  • VCCSA Voltage: Auto
  • VCCIO Voltage: 1.075V
  • CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
  • PCH Voltage: Auto
  • CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled


Advanced\ CPU Configuration >
  • CPU Ratio: Auto
  • Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Enabled
  • Active Processor Cores: All
  • Limit CPUID Maximum: Disabled
  • Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
  • Intel Virtualization Technology: Disabled
  • Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
  • Turbo Mode: Enabled
  • CPU C1E: Enabled
  • CPU C3 Report: Disabled
  • CPU C6 Report: Disabled

 

Note2: The latter settings are P95 14.8GB 9h stable, SuperPi 32M stable, P95 14.8GB 4096-32768 12h stable.

 

My guess is it might have something to do with VCCIO, because of the SB BSOD codes, and It seems to help a lot with getting 2133 SuperPi 32M stable. By alot i mean 1.15 seems less stable than 1.175.

 

I can attach the minidumps or any other info that may help with solving this problem.

 

Edit: It happened again after i left my computer to go eat. BSOD 50

Edit2: BSOD 50 happened again the next day. This is getting annoying.

I hope someone here can help with my mem OC issues.

 

Edit: Some more info:

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You mean these timings?

Only timings mentioned IIRC (Click to show)

he two crucial timings, of course, are CAS Latency, and Write CAS Latency.

For CAS 6 and 7, tWCL should be CAS -1 (so CAS 6 gets tWCL 5 and CAS 7 gets tWCL 6)

For CAS 8 and 9, tWCL should be CAS -2 (so CAS 8 gets tWCL 6 and CAS 9 gets tWCL 7)

For CAS 10 and 11, tWCL should be CAS -3 (so CAS 10 gets tWCL 7, and CAS 11 gets tWCL 8)

They didn't help me get 2133 stable using CAS 11, and Auto tWCL for me was already correct for 2133. I still need 1.55V-1.575V, but I may have a weak IMC since more VCCIO (1.15-1.75 makes a difference) seems to help with stability. I also find it strange that i seem to require the nearly same amount of DRAM volts for 11-11-11-28 2T 8tWCL as 10-10-10-28 2T 7tWCL

 

However, the recommended settings of 1866 9-9-9-27 1T 7tWCL 1.35V worked perfectly.

 


Edited by nawon72 - 3/15/12 at 9:33pm
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Enabling CPU PLL Overvoltage seems to have helped my issue so far.
     
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Enabling CPU PLL Overvoltage seems to have helped my issue so far.
glad you found something that works,

you might want to for kicks try turning HT back on, pll overvoltage might have been the problem all along?
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@munaim1

Thank you for the brief explanation about minimum output current. I understood it completely.
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I was going to resubmit.. but I didn't set mem to 90%.

But then who does? rolleyes.gif
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