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Using offset voltage, I have SpeedStep enabled as well as C1E. I disabled C3, C6 and Package C State Support. I shouldn't run into any issues correct? I'm at 5Ghz 18 hours Prime95 26.6 custom blend stable with 90%+ RAM.

I don't know about all issues, but if u set C states the way u did i don't see why there should be any problems caused by power saving modes like hanging system after sleep of BSOD on idle.

I dont know ur other settings, but IMHO at 5 ghz main thing to look after r Temps and Vcore. If u got there(5 Ghz) i guess u know what u r doing! thumb.gif

Also I didn't have time to play with OC with additional turbo voltage but I'll give it a try when i get the time to do it.
It might MAYBE be the way to solve some BSOD @ idle issues at higher clocks... would be a lot more fun if Intel had let us to go -0.xxx V on that offset voltage too so there would be 2 ways to set offset. One for normal idle-low multis and other for when OC kicks in...but i guess it s reserved for next gen chips after IVY.
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I tried doing some statistical analysis on the just the data from the 2500K's, trying to predict temps based on voltage/speed/memory size/memory speed and type of cooling (air or water).

There's an awful lot of overlap between air and water, and voltage is a reasonable predictor (still lots of errors) if people are interested i'll post up the results. I'd also have some suggestions that might be useful if there is an ivy version of this thread with regards to additional data collection, probably 2-3 more fields, as I'm suspecting we could pull out the differences between HDT and non HDT air coolers, and there may be differences between board manufacturers which would help board selection, or as a supplement to people 'knowing' whats good. interested?


Oh, and I will be going Ivy, is it possible to get a mild OC low 4.0's on sandy with all of the power saving/idling left on?
 
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I tried doing some statistical analysis on the just the data from the 2500K's, trying to predict temps based on voltage/speed/memory size/memory speed and type of cooling (air or water).
There's an awful lot of overlap between air and water, and voltage is a reasonable predictor (still lots of errors) if people are interested i'll post up the results. I'd also have some suggestions that might be useful if there is an ivy version of this thread with regards to additional data collection, probably 2-3 more fields, as I'm suspecting we could pull out the differences between HDT and non HDT air coolers, and there may be differences between board manufacturers which would help board selection, or as a supplement to people 'knowing' whats good. interested?

Oh, and I will be going Ivy, is it possible to get a mild OC low 4.0's on sandy with all of the power saving/idling left on?

Read this thread for IVY info. U can find some good info there. And according to that thread findings OC Ivy on air will be bad.

And I think u can for sure just change MULTI to 40 and everything else on auto and be stable on 99% of chips.
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All ready all over that one, very interesting, a little disappointed with the temps, but you can't have it all on a new process.
 
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Its because he turned all the energy saving stuff off.
If you are going to use offset. Then you want to leave all the C states and all that on. They go together.
If you want to do a manual voltage and lock your clock then you turn them off.
At least thats how I see it. The point of using offset is so the voltage/clock will drop when idle.

When I use offset, the load clock is stuck at 1.33 no matter how high I put the offset. So I cant clock using offset.

Now Im clocking using normal vcore set to 1.35 in bios ~1.28 during load and ~1.344-1356 idle.
With LLC set to 3 out of 10. If I turn it Off the load Vcore would be ~1.24-26 and idle even higher.
For some reason, the CPU (now at 4.2ghz) is much more stable than it was with offset, which also had higher load clocks and idle clocks.. (Still powersaving stuff disabled)
Edited by hamzta09 - 4/18/12 at 6:15am
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Its because he turned all the energy saving stuff off.
If you are going to use offset. Then you want to leave all the C states and all that on. They go together.
If you want to do a manual voltage and lock your clock then you turn them off.
At least thats how I see it. The point of using offset is so the voltage/clock will drop when idle.

When I use offset, the load clock is stuck at 1.33 no matter how high I put the offset. So I cant clock using offset.

Now Im clocking using normal vcore set to 1.35 in bios ~1.28 during load and ~1.344-1356 idle.
With LLC set to 3 out of 10. If I turn it Off the load Vcore would be ~1.24-26 and idle even higher.
For some reason, the CPU (now at 4.2ghz) is much more stable than it was with offset, which also had higher load clocks and idle clocks.. (Still powersaving stuff disabled)

Thats some crazy vdroop there. I would raise llc to get the voltage to be where you set it at load. If you only need 1.28 during load. I would raise LLC so that you can have it at 1.28 at idle as well.
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Thats some crazy vdroop there. I would raise llc to get the voltage to be where you set it at load. If you only need 1.28 during load. I would raise LLC so that you can have it at 1.28 at idle as well.

My LLC set higher doesnt seem to affect the idle vcore much. But I could check again.

So I raised the LLC one step, the Idle vcore gets higher, and load gets higher 1.308 now during Load in prime and 1.356 idle however I lowered bios vcore by 0.010, could probably go lower on it. But for now Im testing.
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Thats some crazy vdroop there. I would raise llc to get the voltage to be where you set it at load. If you only need 1.28 during load. I would raise LLC so that you can have it at 1.28 at idle as well.

My LLC set higher doesnt seem to affect the idle vcore much. But I could check again.

No I am talking about load. You said under load you are stable at 1.28v? So set the llc so that you can set your manual voltage to 1.28. And so that when under load it stays at that voltage. So idle 1.28v Load 1.28v. If stable at a certain voltage under load no need to run it much higher at idle.

A bunch of people were getting that board with their 2600k at micro center this weekend. Seems like they are going to be bummed. Sounds like it has a crappy bios.
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No I am talking about load. You said under load you are stable at 1.28v? So set the llc so that you can set your manual voltage to 1.28. And so that when under load it stays at that voltage. So idle 1.28v Load 1.28v. If stable at a certain voltage under load no need to run it much higher at idle.
A bunch of people were getting that board with their 2600k at micro center this weekend. Seems like they are going to be bummed. Sounds like it has a crappy bios.

Well my CPU seems to like higher voltage during idle than load for some reason, or atleast when the clock is still at 4.2ghz in idle.
You mean I should set the LLC basicly at 10/10 and then voltage at 1.28 or as close to it as possible. I heard that too much LLC isnt that good.

The Board is fine, however the OC features are a bit lacking, like you cant use Offset together with LLC.
And im still using F9, there is F10 and F11 aswell. But I havent gotten @BIOS to figure out that there are new BIOS's for this Board. And my USB stick wont be reckognized by the QFlash in POST.
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No I am talking about load. You said under load you are stable at 1.28v? So set the llc so that you can set your manual voltage to 1.28. And so that when under load it stays at that voltage. So idle 1.28v Load 1.28v. If stable at a certain voltage under load no need to run it much higher at idle.
A bunch of people were getting that board with their 2600k at micro center this weekend. Seems like they are going to be bummed. Sounds like it has a crappy bios.

Well my CPU seems to like higher voltage during idle than load for some reason, or atleast when the clock is still at 4.2ghz in idle.
You mean I should set the LLC basicly at 10/10 and then voltage at 1.28 or as close to it as possible. I heard that too much LLC isnt that good.

The Board is fine, however the OC features are a bit lacking, like you cant use Offset together with LLC.
And im still using F9, there is F10 and F11 aswell. But I havent gotten @BIOS to figure out that there are new BIOS's for this Board. And my USB stick wont be reckognized by the QFlash in POST.

Its cool do what you want. I just feel that if a cpu can run at said voltage under load then it definitely should be able to also when idle.

When you set the voltage in the bios you are setting the idle. I always try to get the voltage to stay constant when loaded. But yes I have heard some things about llc as well. I normally run it a bit below the highest level.

But I don't know much about gigabytes 1155 bios's. I only had one board at launch and returned it as I didn't like it. (this was before they finally got uefi.)
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