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Ok I'm submitting 2 rigs for the Sandy Stable Club. First one is mine and the 2nd one is my son's. He's the 9 year old known to most in the gaming community as The Legend for his videos of when he was pwning noobs at the age of 6.
First of all though, thank you for all of the amazing help on this forum especially to Munaim and ras for helping me get these overclocks done in a relatively quick manner. I will post the videos of both of these rigs after I put some finishing touches on them.

I made sure to overlap the start/finish times on the Prime Blends as well as highlight the video cards to show the difference in the 2 rigs because a lot of our parts are the same.

Also this was my first watercooling build with many thanks as well to these forums for all of the great advice on how to build and where to shop.

I went with HT on for mine because for one, I'm a baller rolleyes.gif, and 2nd I'm going to be streaming and doing other media intensive projects with mine, otherwise I would have just gone with HT off.

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Those are good chips you guys have. But have you tried lowering PLL to 1.70v (+/-)?

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Anyone got any thoughts at whether memory voltage affects CPU temp on SB, and therefore is likely to on IVB? Going to buy ram and have a choice of that samsung LV stuff that should OC well at 1.4V or some more standard 1600 CL8 at 1.5V. one is a risk, one is a dead cert, but may generate more heat.

I have these. There is no increase in CPU temp from 1.35v to 1.50v on the memory. And best to leave those at 1600 and lower the timings---increased clocks will have more impact on stability.
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Thanks samwiches, I'll stick with ballistics at CL8 1600, less risk no real difference in cost.
 
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Those are good chips you guys have. But have you tried lowering PLL to 1.70v (+/-)?

I didn't try to mess with the PLL voltages as I was trying to just get something stable before this weekend because we'll be playing TERA OBT.

Would lowering the PLL to 1.7 allow for lower vCore potentially?
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Those are good chips you guys have. But have you tried lowering PLL to 1.70v (+/-)?



Would lowering the PLL to 1.7 allow for lower vCore potentially?

I am curious about this as well.
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I don't remember whether I was able to reduce vcore, or if I simply extended my "wall", but 4800MHz was my previous maximum with a 1.45v limit on vcore. After finding a PLL around 1.70v I maxed at 5151MHz w/ 1.44v.

In addition, more testing with the new Samsung 22nm memory and raising VCCIO to 1.100v allowed a single 10hr+ run at 5100MHz w/ 1.408v, where previously 1.42v was needed for a 12hr run.

That may not sound very systematic, but basically with PLL @ 1.70v and VCCIO @ 1.10v got my chip from 4800MHz to 5100MHz.

Again, not sure if there was a wall I was hitting or whether I simply need too much voltage to continue pushing, but that was the result---more gigajertz. thumb.gif
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I don't remember whether I was able to reduce vcore, or if I simply extended my "wall", but 4800MHz was my previous maximum with a 1.45v limit on vcore. After finding a PLL around 1.70v I maxed at 5151MHz w/ 1.44v.

In addition, more testing with the new Samsung 22nm memory and raising VCCIO to 1.100v allowed a single 10hr+ run at 5100MHz w/ 1.408v, where previously 1.42v was needed for a 12hr run.

That may not sound very systematic, but basically with PLL @ 1.70v and VCCIO @ 1.10v got my chip from 4800MHz to 5100MHz.

Again, not sure if there was a wall I was hitting or whether I simply need too much voltage to continue pushing, but that was the result---more gigajertz. thumb.gif

Sounds great man. When my silver arrow gets here monday I will be trying this out.

So what do you use for quick testing when messing around with new clocks. I mean obviously a 12 hour test with every little change isn't practical. I was using this post here.

When I did the 1344 test prime became unresponsive instantly. The windows never updated. THe cpu was at 100% but I had to close it with the task manager. I thought oh great but I then passed a 12 hour blend. And was able to do the other custom FFT tests fine. So it had me a little confused.

But is that still the recommended method when finding your clocks.
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I've ran P95 for overnight at 10mins per iteration and at 90% of my RAM. Everything was quiet stable unitl FFT 288 (that was about 10 hrs 53 mins). So I stop the torture test and raise my vcore to a notch (.005v).
But running again from the start would consume a lot time in me since I've got of a lot videos to edit. So my idea was to manually torture every single FFT left with the same settings I used..starting from 288 FFT down to 4096 FFT (w/c is the last TEST) which is about 8 FFT tests. (not sure, 8 or 9 left)
My question is :
My idea of MANUAL TORTURE TEST, is it acceptable?
Is it still the same way how p95 test?
pls help.

I would stop looking for "shortcuts" and get on with it.

Do 20 runs of Linx AVX using all the available RAM. If it fails readjust and retry.

If it passes without problems then run 30 minutes of Prime95 (v26.6) for 2688K (that's my "favorite"), 1792K and 1344K. Separate sessions for each of these 3 FFTs, 30 minutes each using as much RAM as you can (sorry guys but my stats have many cases that running 1792 and 1344K for 15 minutes each just wasn't enough to get the picture).

Doesn't matter the order, run these sessions with what ever order you like. If it fails at one of these, readjust and rerun ALL three again.

If all three passes then you are ready for the +12 hour Prime marathon. Will it pass 12 hours of Prime? You'll tell us. In my experience if you have succeeded these 4 sessions (Linx AVX and 3 Prime ones, depending on the frequency it should be 2.5-3 hours total run time for all of these) then you have a pretty good chance to pass the +12 hour marathon without problems.

If for some reason the 12h fails (never happened to me since i adapted this methodology, time will tell) then readjust and just rerun the 12h marathon.

Good luck.
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Sounds great man. When my silver arrow gets here monday I will be trying this out.

So what do you use for quick testing when messing around with new clocks. I mean obviously a 12 hour test with every little change isn't practical. I was using this post here.

When I did the 1344 test prime became unresponsive instantly. The windows never updated. THe cpu was at 100% but I had to close it with the task manager. I thought oh great but I then passed a 12 hour blend. And was able to do the other custom FFT tests fine. So it had me a little confused.

But is that still the recommended method when finding your clocks.

For Vcore/clock testing I just ran 1344K with minimum/default memory at max Vcore and desired clock, then lowered Vcore until BSOD. Rebooted and raised vcore one notch back upward for 30 mins of 1344K (sometimes repeating that last step with a little more Vcore.)

For testing RAM or VCCIO I use 95% of available memory and 1344K, then wait for errors. ASUS AI Suite is awesome for testing VCCIO and PLL cause Prime won't usually crash, mostly gives errors. You can adjust and restart the test, then expect an error within 30 seconds.

When you get that hanging, is it with high memory in use? If so that might be the hard drive caching.

(Really though.. since this is the Sandy Stable club I don't get why we need to test so much memory anyway. I need my comp for movies and MLB Net, and video runs like crap when I have all the RAM tied up.)

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I try those tests "2688K" above but Prime95 then gets stuck at "Starting" nothing more happens.

EDIT: So Prime95 wont load on any of those 3 Custom digits.

I passed Linx though on 42multi, 1.28v bios, LLC 5 and actual Load Volt = 1.306.
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Actually you know what yes that was at Max memory. And my hard drive has only like 3gb's available. I need to free up some space. Also thanks a lot for the help rep incoming. Didnt think of using AI suite.
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I didn't try to mess with the PLL voltages as I was trying to just get something stable before this weekend because we'll be playing TERA OBT.
Would lowering the PLL to 1.7 allow for lower vCore potentially?

In short; YES for sure. Many people in this tread did this. It got me stable 5 ghz OC.
U can try even lower than 1.7 on pll. If u go too low PC simply will not boot. Thats where that CLR CMOS button comes in handy! biggrin.gif
My cpu is currently @ 4.5 ghz with PLL 1.58 V. So going that low on pll form stock 1.82 V got me some 0.025 Vcore drop. And less heat generated.
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