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HI Guys

I am new to this overclocking world and i am still learning . But i Wanted to know the opinion from everyone in here .

As far as i know my system is stable .... I have been runing prime for the last 16 hours and it is really stable As you can see in the photos.. I want to join the club smile.gif

One thing that i really want to know is if you guys think i can get better temps by lowering the Vcore . But since i am fairly new to this overclocking world i think i might be getting way over my head.

I used a very easy guide to overclock which i include along with the pictures.. Of course i used the simplest way .... and only had to change like 3 settings in the bios and i was done.

What do you think so far of my overclock ???? Do you think i can get better temos by lowerind the VCore or use something like DVID.

Thanks

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Mad props for this tome of knowledge! Went from knowing completely nothing about OCing to pumping my 2600k from 3.4-4.7 in under a week! biggrin.gif

Can anyone help me push a little further? Bios shots are below... currently using my machine at these settings but I BSOD x101 16 hours into Prime blend.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

450

450

450

450

450

450

450

450

450

(cliff's notes)
47x @ 1.385 vcore
auto vccio and PLL
ultra high LLC
extreme phase & duty control
PLL overvoltage disabled

I'm not happy with me temps... max is 68-75 across the board. Would love to lower vcore to get this 24/7 stable. I don't want to mess with C3/6 as storage speed is very important to me.

Any ideas? I figure my best options are to press forward by fine tuning PLL & vccio OR drop down 1-2x on the multiplier to run cooler/safe/less-volty-er wink.gif.

Kyle
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I decided to clock my machine down for the Summer. I've been running 4.8 with offset voltage since December. Recently, I was getting a BSOD every other week or so with a 1E error. There was never necessarily anything going on when I got the BSODs. I could be in a Word Document or Firefox, no gaming or anything at the time. I thought maybe my overclock was degraded, but when I checked the logs, I noticed that the last thing that happened before each BSOD was an attempted backup via WHS Connector. My WHS machine is not currently running, so I'm guessing that was the real reason behind the BSODs.

Anyway, I decided to go for 4.5. Via manual voltage with LLC set to Ultra High, I found that I needed a minimum of 1.256 vcore showing in CPU-Z to be stable for 16 hours in Prime 95. The VID was showing 1.3411 under load. It was really hard to get 1.256 vcore under load with any level of LLC while using offset voltage. The problem with Ultra High LLC was that I had to set offset to -.075. I would get the right vcore at load, but idle was dropping to 0.94 or so. I've heard that you can get BSODs when you're running that low. I didn't, but I wasn't really testing it for any amount of time. I went through all levels of LLC with the same problem. I could easily get the right load vcore in CPU-Z, but idle voltage was always sub 1.000. I eventually settled on LLC set to normal (AKA 0%) with offset of +.020. This got me 1.000-1.008 at idle and 1.248-1.256-1.264 under load. I was able to finish 16 hours of Prime 95 with this. However, I took the screenshot and left it running and I got a 3B BSOD a couple hours later. I noticed that it was running at 1.248 when I last looked at it. So, I've actually since changed the offset to +.025. The only downside I see to this setup is that under light load, voltage is hitting 1.304. Full load drops it down around 1.256 though. Enough talk:

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BCLCK 100.0
Mulitplier 45
Offset vcore +.020
PLL 1.60
Duty Cycle Extreme
Phase Cycle Exreme
VRM Manual 350
CPU Current Capability 140%
Everything else auto/stock
Max Core Temps 59 66 66 64
Ambient temps from 25.4 to 26.4

Here's the proof and BIOS settings I used for the 16 hour Prime run:

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450
450
450

I may have to try auto and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by She loved E View Post

Mad props for this tome of knowledge! Went from knowing completely nothing about OCing to pumping my 2600k from 3.4-4.7 in under a week! biggrin.gif
Can anyone help me push a little further? Bios shots are below... currently using my machine at these settings but I BSOD x101 16 hours into Prime blend. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
450
450
450
450
450
450
450
450
450
(cliff's notes)
47x @ 1.385 vcore
auto vccio and PLL
ultra high LLC
extreme phase & duty control
PLL overvoltage disabled
I'm not happy with me temps... max is 68-75 across the board. Would love to lower vcore to get this 24/7 stable. I don't want to mess with C3/6 as storage speed is very important to me.
Any ideas? I figure my best options are to press forward by fine tuning PLL & vccio OR drop down 1-2x on the multiplier to run cooler/safer.
Kyle

Try lowering PLL a little, that may help with stability and it may also help your temperatures a bit. I have the same board and PLL of 1.6 seems to work well for me. What is your ambient temperature? For what it's worth, I got about the same temps you did when I was running 4.8 GHz at 1.360 vcore with ambients around 21.5 C using a Silver Arrow. So, you're not doing bad with temps at all. Since you are so close to 16 hour stability, you may make it on another run without changing anything.
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I decided to clock my machine down for the Summer. I've been running 4.8 with offset voltage since December. Recently, I was getting a BSOD every other week or so with a 1E error. There was never necessarily anything going on when I got the BSODs. I could be in a Word Document or Firefox, no gaming or anything at the time. I thought maybe my overclock was degraded, but when I checked the logs, I noticed that the last thing that happened before each BSOD was an attempted backup via WHS Connector. My WHS machine is not currently running, so I'm guessing that was the real reason behind the BSODs.
Anyway, I decided to go for 4.5. Via manual voltage with LLC set to Ultra High, I found that I needed a minimum of 1.256 vcore showing in CPU-Z to be stable for 16 hours in Prime 95. The VID was showing 1.3411 under load. It was really hard to get 1.256 vcore under load with any level of LLC while using offset voltage. The problem with Ultra High LLC was that I had to set offset to -.075. I would get the right vcore at load, but idle was dropping to 0.94 or so. I've heard that you can get BSODs when you're running that low. I didn't, but I wasn't really testing it for any amount of time. I went through all levels of LLC with the same problem. I could easily get the right load vcore in CPU-Z, but idle voltage was always sub 1.000. I eventually settled on LLC set to normal (AKA 0%) with offset of +.020. This got me 1.000-1.008 at idle and 1.248-1.256-1.264 under load. I was able to finish 16 hours of Prime 95 with this. However, I took the screenshot and left it running and I got a 3B BSOD a couple hours later. I noticed that it was running at 1.248 when I last looked at it. So, I've actually since changed the offset to +.025. The only downside I see to this setup is that under light load, voltage is hitting 1.304. Full load drops it down around 1.256 though. Enough talk:
Intel Core i7 2700K Batch 3138A726
BCLCK 100.0
Mulitplier 45
Offset vcore +.020
PLL 1.60
Duty Cycle Extreme
Phase Cycle Exreme
VRM Manual 350
CPU Current Capability 140%
Everything else auto/stock
Max Core Temps 59 66 66 64
Ambient temps from 25.4 to 26.4
Here's the proof and BIOS settings I used for the 16 hour Prime run:
I may have to try auto and see what happens.

Can you be specific about your light loads please? It sounds like you have c3/c6 disabled. Put your LLC at it's lowest setting and get cpuz volts back to 1.256 under prime and you'll be fine under any load biggrin.gif
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HI Guys
I am new to this overclocking world and i am still learning . But i Wanted to know the opinion from everyone in here .
As far as i know my system is stable .... I have been runing prime for the last 16 hours and it is really stable As you can see in the photos.. I want to join the club smile.gif
One thing that i really want to know is if you guys think i can get better temps by lowering the Vcore . But since i am fairly new to this overclocking world i think i might be getting way over my head.
I used a very easy guide to overclock which i include along with the pictures.. Of course i used the simplest way .... and only had to change like 3 settings in the bios and i was done.
What do you think so far of my overclock ???? Do you think i can get better temos by lowerind the VCore or use something like DVID.
Thanks
Shremi
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Shremi - OC'ing the SB chip is way too easy. Personally, I think your temps are a bit high for that OC. Depends on what cooling you have set up. I used to run an H70 and maxed out, under full load, at 62 C while running at 4.5. I've sinced switched over to water cooling and don't get past 50 (52-54 on the warmer days). Temps are really a thing of personal preference. If the mid 70's is what you are seeing under full load - you shouldn't run the risk of having any issues for a general every day usage. If you are running on a stock cooler, I wouldn't recommend trying to get your OC much higer until you can get on a better cooling setup. Also, as each chip is slightly different, the VCore that works for me won't necessarily work for you. With that - i have my rig set at 1.270 V for a 4.5 daily setup. Now, with you saying you are new to the OC space, here's my recommendation to find the sweet spot for your OC.

1. Download LinX. It'll stress your rig but in a fraction of the time of Prime.
2. If you like the 4.5 set up, go in to BIOS and drop your VCore down by 10 mV (or if you can't type in a direct voltage, selected the next step down).
3. Load in to Windows, open LinX and set the following parameters:
A. Problem Size: 20000
B. Memory Size: Leave it at what it defaults to
C. Run: 10
At a 4.5 OC, this should take around 15 minutes to run. If it runs successfully, go back to Step #2. If it does not run (e.g. - you get a blue screen), go back in to BIOS and select the last VCore setting (or enter in the last VCore setting) and that is your minimum VCore for 4.5. Personally, I find that, when following the "step by step guides to get to 4.5" the VCore they use are way overkill for what is really needed. Plus, if you find a lower VCore, you are potentially saving your chip from degrading too fast. Although, at your current voltage - you really don't need to worry about that too much.

Like you mentioned - the SB chips are insanely easy to OC. Good luck and remember - take it slow and baby steps.
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@ breenemeister - thanks for the suggestion. I lowered PLL to 1.4 in order to do a step-up test to find the minimum. No boot at 1.4, but I'm currently 1hr stable @ 1.5. My temps somehow seem higher than before (2-3 degrees). My ambients are about 65F/18C. Trying to decide now if I should bump PLL up to 1.6 and restart or keep pushing thru with the current test.
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Can you be specific about your light loads please? It sounds like you have c3/c6 disabled. Put your LLC at it's lowest setting and get cpuz volts back to 1.256 under prime and you'll be fine under any load biggrin.gif

By light load, I mean like when you open a web browser, Word or something like that. CPU utilization might hit 25% for a second or two. If you're watching CPU-Z, it will briefly jump up in voltage to 1.304 or 1.312. Sometimes you can see the speed of the chip jump to 4.5, but other times it stays at 1.6. C3/C6 are set to auto. LLC is set at normal. I'm getting the 1.256 I need in Prime. I think It gets higher under lighter loads because it's not being taxed enough. Putting a heavy load on a chip is what causes the voltage drop in the first place and that's why LLC was invented.
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@ breenemeister - thanks for the suggestion. I lowered PLL to 1.4 in order to do a step-up test to find the minimum. No boot at 1.4, but I'm currently 1hr stable @ 1.5. My temps somehow seem higher than before (2-3 degrees). My ambients are about 65F/18C. Trying to decide now if I should bump PLL up to 1.6 and restart or keep pushing thru with the current test.

Yeah, I wouldn't go below 1.55. I've seen that called the sweet spot for some. I just stuck with 1.6 when I tried it and it worked.
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Heya, is there a different program then your 1. motherboard software or 2. cpuz that shows what each core speed is at?

for example

Install made up program called INTEL CPU CORE DETECTOR
i5 2500k @ whatever speed detected
core 1 @ Xghz
core 2 @ Xghz
core 3 @ Xghz
core 4 @ Xghz

? thanks! and Iketh thanks for your help before I will get back to you or this thread about disabling the monitor turn on/off after 15-20 mins when i can, Do most of you have this feature turned on or off? Is there actually a recommendation in doing for or not? Also do the rest of you just literally hit the power button on your monitor otherwise when you know you will be AFK/out/etc...
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