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For Prime to throttle like that I'd say it's a thermal issue or something else. To much memory and it will not start at all or it freezes. Sounds like a failed overclock to me or weak IMC or miss matched memory or possibly doing to much while prime is running. take your pick One thing for sure Prime95 ver 27.7 does not throttle the app for any extended period of time only brief seconds between iterations which are normally not detectable it run 100% load from beginning to end. 
From task manager (ctrl+alt+Del > 'Start Task Manager' > 'Performance' Tab
you should be showing approx. 32356 mb of total 'Physical Memory'
Windows takes approx 3400 mb to operate +/- depends on running apps and task most of which should not be running/opening etc when running Prime95.
If you plugged in approx. 28500 mb in Prime95 'memory to use (in MB)' field you should be good to go.
Again avoid browsing or other memory intensive apps while stress testing w/Prime95 and use ver 27.7 64bit exe.
GL

Well it now seems fine....... No more drops in CPU usage after the first 5 min (Just one drop ).... Heat is most certain not an issue the max core temp is 55deg - admittedly the temps are not as high as they were before running a straight blend test where the got up to 58deg and the Water/air DT also was 2 deg higher I'm starting to think that once i'v run this for say 20h I should run prime95 with Small FFT to stress the CPU a bit more If I was to do this how would i set it up just Set Min FFT to say 4 and max FFT to 1000?
    
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For Prime to throttle like that I'd say it's a thermal issue or something else. To much memory and it will not start at all or it freezes. Sounds like a failed overclock to me or weak IMC or miss matched memory or possibly doing to much while prime is running. take your pick One thing for sure Prime95 ver 27.7 does not throttle the app for any extended period of time only brief seconds between iterations which are normally not detectable it run 100% load from beginning to end. 
From task manager (ctrl+alt+Del > 'Start Task Manager' > 'Performance' Tab
you should be showing approx. 32356 mb of total 'Physical Memory'
Windows takes approx 3400 mb to operate +/- depends on running apps and task most of which should not be running/opening etc when running Prime95.
If you plugged in approx. 28500 mb in Prime95 'memory to use (in MB)' field you should be good to go.
Again avoid browsing or other memory intensive apps while stress testing w/Prime95 and use ver 27.7 64bit exe.
GL

Well it now seems fine....... No more drops in CPU usage after the first 5 min (Just one drop ).... Heat is most certain not an issue the max core temp is 55deg - admittedly the temps are not as high as they were before running a straight blend test where the got up to 58deg and the Water/air DT also was 2 deg higher I'm starting to think that once i'v run this for say 20h I should run prime95 with Small FFT to stress the CPU a bit more If I was to do this how would i set it up just Set Min FFT to say 4 and max FFT to 1000?

 

Yep those temps are fine still I would want to know what caused the throttling as this is not normal. Did you do something different this time? What are you using to monitor temps? offset or manual vcore? what makes you think you need additional testing after 20 hours of blend? Are all threads running w/o errors when the throttling occurs? Are we discussing the ivy bridge in your sig or sandy bridge ?

 

If you want to run small in place fft's I would use the default values of 8 to 64 see image below no need to make any changes because RAM is not tested much with small fft's.

 

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my 2500k would throttle if i had pll voltage set too low when i was looking for my lowest cpu pll voltage.
if it throttles again, open task manager and see which core is dropping off or if all cores lose load.
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my 2500k would throttle if i had pll voltage set too low when i was looking for my lowest cpu pll voltage.
if it throttles again, open task manager and see which core is dropping off or if all cores lose load.


Ya that's my concern too, is it a bad setting of the overclock? or is a core failing? Through Prime95 dialog however it should show when a core fails and the effected worker thread will show 'stopped' if it's still working but throttled then task manager should show that well.

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Yep those temps are fine still I would want to know what caused the throttling as this is not normal. Did you do something different this time? What are you using to monitor temps? offset or manual vcore? what makes you think you need additional testing after 20 hours of blend? Are all threads running w/o errors when the throttling occurs? Are we discussing the ivy bridge in your sig or sandy bridge ?

If you want to run small in place fft's I would use the default values of 8 to 64 see image below no need to make any changes because RAM is not tested much with small fft's.


Woops i some how missed that.... lol my bad

I think it throttled since I may have allocated to much ram first time round think i told it to test 32gb. (not that that make much scene to me)...... The second time it did it just dropped the load 30secs in....... Maybe it is the PLL but i doubt it since i never does it with any other stress test think it may just be Prime v26.6 not liking my processor.......

I have Not done 20h of blend testing yet bit lost where you got that from I have done probably 7h of Prime all up will leave the PC on tonight and do a 18-24h Prime test with 28gb of ram to be tested.

My system is what is stated in the Sig so its a 3930k (SB-E) I'v done a straight OC was not bothered with the Offset method......
    
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Ya that's my concern too, is it a bad setting of the overclock? or is a core failing? Through Prime95 dialog however it should show when a core fails and the effected worker thread will show 'stopped' if it's still working but throttled then task manager should show that well.

So how do i tell if i get an error?

These are my settings

Multiple - 48
Blck - 100
Vcore - 1.4 (get a reading of 1.42/1.41 from CPUID strange)
VVT - 1.1
VCCSA - 1.0624 - Something like that
PPL - 1.7624
LLC - Set to high
Ram XMP (1866mhz)

And to monitor temps real temp and speed fan and use Task manager to monitor usage
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Ya that's my concern too, is it a bad setting of the overclock? or is a core failing? Through Prime95 dialog however it should show when a core fails and the effected worker thread will show 'stopped' if it's still working but throttled then task manager should show that well.

So how do i tell if i get an error?

These are my settings

Multiple - 48
Blck - 100
Vcore - 1.4 (get a reading of 1.42/1.41 from CPUID strange)
VVT - 1.1
VCCSA - 1.0624 - Something like that
PPL - 1.7624
LLC - Set to high
Ram XMP (1866mhz)

And to monitor temps real temp and speed fan and use Task manager to monitor usage


P95 will report errors in the dialog adjacent to the iteration it's currently running no worries you'll know it when it happens.

1.42 actual under 100% load when set to 1.4 is not unusual with LLC set to high that is it's function and is based on the load again no worries.

Sorry got to go bracing for hurricane the remainder of this day GL

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Really? You mean after a vcore adjustment it is possible that I get ANOTHER PLL sweet spot and the test another lower vcore?

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yeah this method definitely didnt work out for me - i got a slightly (i mean like 10 points) better score with 1.7V but as soon as i went to run prime95 or IBT it failed till i went back to 1.6V and i was good to go again.

@owcraftsman

What do you think of these?
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Really? You mean after a vcore adjustment it is possible that I get ANOTHER PLL sweet spot and the test another lower vcore?

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Originally Posted by Bouf0010 View Post

yeah this method definitely didnt work out for me - i got a slightly (i mean like 10 points) better score with 1.7V but as soon as i went to run prime95 or IBT it failed till i went back to 1.6V and i was good to go again.

@owcraftsman

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I never said it was easy If you are stable at one group of settings save it, you can always go back to it if you run out of patients or give up.

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