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Belated thanks for these suggestions. I've been caught up in college work recently and so I just put the CPU back to stock until I had the time to deal with it. Seems like PLL and VCCIO are the most likely culprits. I got the 124 very recently after running prime95 stable so it won't be a case of degradation. So let's say I try switching to manual from XMP, how do I know where to begin with PLL and VCCIO? Also, should I use the newer version of prime with AVX support and if so do I need to use different FFTs to before? Cheers.

If you go to the first page of this very long thread, there's a link to approaching 0x124 BSODs, which you might want to read over. Check your BIOS and make note of what your current VCCIO and CPU PLL values are, and start from there.

It will take some patience at this point, as you may be bumping these up and down a bit before you find the sweet spot. I think that for my test, it was about 1.13-1.14 for VCCIO and 1.8375 or about that for CPU PLL. But every motherboard and CPU combination is probably going to be different.

Also, having a program like RealTemp or similar that can report VID values is handy, just to check to see where you're at in comparison with actual core voltage.

Edit: you would want to use 27.7 or higher for it having the correct instruction set for your CPU.
Edited by stahlhart - 1/28/13 at 4:54pm
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There seems to be a few misconceptions here in a few of the previous post above let me take a moment to clear a few things up.

1st of all this is the Sandy Stable Club offered for OCN members who use this platform to submit their stable bios settings, voltages and temps for other to benefit from these submission as a starting point to begin their overclocking process on their own systems. It's a tremendous resource for the beginner overclocker. The OP includes, specific rule regarding submissions, guides, spread sheet, tips, precautions and general caveats you'll likely encounter with your system to facilitate it's member and potential members for a properly tuned stable system. All else that follows the OP is a discussion of all the above.

For anyone who has had to format and reload windows due to data corruption on your OS drive, which can come from BSODs knows fully the good reasons for making sure your system is 100% stable. Not the least of which is lost precious data but having to reload all your programs & games all over again. Not fun to say the least. Whether you feel it's necessary or not is not a topic of discussion here.

There is no mention in the rules for submission to enter the club where running Prime95 for 24 hrs is required. Rather it has been noted within the body of this thread, and linked in the OP that you will not have completed all test available that Prime95 has to offer in 12 hr. which can take up to 24 hrs where it begins to repeat all available test over again. This is why many feel it's important to run the program for up to 24 hrs to consider your self stable but again it is not required.

There is also no requirement to test GPU or memory which is equally important to do if you want to consider your system completely stable and avoid the ugly mess of formatting and reloading windows, due to a system not shutting down properly which can corrupt the system. A BSOD is not a system shutting down properly. If you have experienced any it is always wise after you stabilize to reformat and reload windows but that is also not a requirement and few will take this measure unless they have to.

Furthermore this is thread is not for normal use unless you consider a 4.0+ overclock normal use moreover it's about running an overclocked system normally as you would expect a system to do at stock speeds. For that matter I always recommend running Prime95 for 24 hrs or one full set of available test, at stock/default speeds to expose any defective hardware before you move on to overclocking. For me it's a no brainier.

As nearly every facet of stability has been discussed within this thread, for all our benefit, one would expect multiple opinions and not all agreeing on what that means consequently there is no etched in stone format to achieving stability amongst it's contributors however the OP has provided rules that clearly state what is required for membership and makes no claim it is the be all to end all arguments otherwise.

What you take away from all these discussions is, as always, up to you but I do recommend reading through all of it because there is plenty to be gained from the experiences shared here.

Finally this is not the place to discuss tuning your overclock it is for submitting your results. If you are having trouble or new to overclocking you will be better served starting your own thread or going to your board specific thread and asking your questions there.


Are there results in your post that I missed? I've read a lot of this and it is far from a list of results. It is primarily opinions and requests for or offers to help with overclocking, as is your post.
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Stige. He's insisting that a 24 hr Prime95 test is useless. I'm saying that it was your choice to make your stability limit to 24 hours before considering it rock stable.

I said it was useless for me. If I was plotting rocket trajectories for NASA or SAC maybe I would feel differently. If I was doing cancer research I might feel differently. I do neither. I believe most here fall into the same group as me.
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If you go to the first page of this very long thread, there's a link to approaching 0x124 BSODs, which you might want to read over. Check your BIOS and make note of what your current VCCIO and CPU PLL values are, and start from there.

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Also, having a program like RealTemp or similar that can report VID values is handy, just to check to see where you're at in comparison with actual core voltage.

Edit: you would want to use 27.7 or higher for it having the correct instruction set for your CPU.

I think 27.9 has some problems and most people suggest to stick with 27.7 with the AVX instructions. 27.9 isn't even downloadable in the official site of Prime95.
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I think 27.9 has some problems and most people suggest to stick with 27.7 with the AVX instructions. 27.9 isn't even downloadable in the official site of Prime95.

Did not know that -- thank you for letting me know.

I owe you a BIOS setting test -- haven't forgotten.
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Did not know that -- thank you for letting me know.

I owe you a BIOS setting test -- haven't forgotten.

No worries thumb.gif

And I'm the one who forgot, lol. What was that BIOS setting again that I was asking a favor from you?
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No worries thumb.gif

And I'm the one who forgot, lol. What was that BIOS setting again that I was asking a favor from you?

Spread Spectrum enabled. I was rebooting to try the new 313.95 beta drivers, so I jumped in there and set it.
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I think 27.9 has some problems and most people suggest to stick with 27.7 with the AVX instructions. 27.9 isn't even downloadable in the official site of Prime95.

If you look at their thread it seems they are recommending the move to 27.9 from 27.7 which appears to have had some issues. If people are only concerned about the AVX instructions then according to the whatsnew file they could stay with 27.1 for 32bit or 27.3 for 64bit (if that's all that matters).
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If you look at their thread it seems they are recommending the move to 27.9 from 27.7 which appears to have had some issues. If people are only concerned about the AVX instructions then according to the whatsnew file they could stay with 27.1 for 32bit or 27.3 for 64bit (if that's all that matters).

Ok.

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How do you test if your idle voltage is enough not to experience idle BSODs?
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