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Hello there, im still new in overclocking and im seeking some guidance here...

Im trying to push my 2500k to 4.6 for 24/7..how i can set it manually through bios..?im using p8z77-m and so far i got no idea does the settings are the same with p67 and z68...
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Originally Posted by torino View Post

Hello there, im still new in overclocking and im seeking some guidance here...

Im trying to push my 2500k to 4.6 for 24/7..how i can set it manually through bios..?im using p8z77-m and so far i got no idea does the settings are the same with p67 and z68...

What are you trying to set in BIOS? What are your current settings, and what happens when you attempt a stress test now?
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What are you trying to set in BIOS? What are your current settings, and what happens when you attempt a stress test now?

before this i did some tweaking on bios..setting manual vcore at 1.435, Ultra high LLC, and some other things...but is it possible to lower the vcore to 1.35?some forumers managed to have even 4.7 around 1.37..and it seems mine only have stable 4.5ghz at 1.355...


not sure whether im right or wrong for the time being..but i just need some suggestions..currently im running 4.2..only tweak the multiplier..
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before this i did some tweaking on bios..setting manual vcore at 1.435, Ultra high LLC, and some other things...but is it possible to lower the vcore to 1.35?some forumers managed to have even 4.7 around 1.37..and it seems mine only have stable 4.5ghz at 1.355...


not sure whether im right or wrong for the time being..but i just need some suggestions..currently im running 4.2..only tweak the multiplier..

If others got it working at that then it doesn't mean yours will.

Mine ran 4.8GHz with 1.365V but required 1.46V to get to 5GHz and running 5.1GHz @ 1.51V right now.
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There are some useful links to various guide in the first page of this thread. A few things to bear in mind before you start so you know what you are getting yourself into:


  1. Every chip is different. Each require different voltage for a specific clock. Finding out what your chip can do and requires what voltage is all part of the fun. biggrin.gif
  2. There are many guides out there that can tell you different things, read more than one and decide which you would like to go with. Sometimes a mixture of multiple guides.
  3. It's not as simple and vcore voltage and clock. Everything you see in the bios can affect stability. Use guides to get an idea of what the general settings are, and what are the most important things to tweak, but don't be afraid to step outside of what they tell you.
  4. It is unlikely you will kill your chip through overclocking provided you don't go overboard (eg. normal voltage for VCCIO is around 0.95, so use your common sense and don't pump 1.5 in there). So feel free to experiment.
  5. If you are really stuck, google is your best friend, as well as the people on this site.
  6. to get you started, the most important settings you will need to tweak will be: Multiplier, Vcore, VCCIO (sometimes called QPI/VTT), PLL, LLC (Load-Line Calibration). Most other things you can almost certainly just find a guide, do what you are told and leave it at that.
  7. Have patience and have fun. thumb.gif
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Tbh I give up, it's not worth my time. It's nice to be able to say I have a 4.5GHz CPU but it only yields significant results in FSX, which is so flaky anyway that it's kind of swings and roundabouts between the supposed extra performance and the decreased stability.

Sandy and Ivy overclocking is supposed to be easier than older platforms, but it still seems to me that it's a complete pain to get it stable. I'm not being ridiculous with my definition of 'stable' here, either - it's crashing when playing games.

I'm at the point now where I don't have a particular way to stress test (it doesn't crash after running 15 hours of Prime, nobody seems to know which version of Prime is best to use anyhow) and I'm not going to slightly tweak PLL and/or VCCIO values and then wait until a game crashes a few weeks later - I'd be here years before I could call anything stable.

Anyhow, thanks to everyone in this thread for constant support and tips but I can no longer justify the countless hours to get something stable which then proves unstable not too long later.

(inb4 I come back next week to keep trying)
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Just a tidbit for some of you if you have issues with your cpu not being stable my cpu has started to bsod 101 so i thought maybe it degraded some sence i been running 1.48-1.52 vcore at 5ghz for like 8 months folding off and on and gaming. Well turned out my ram has got picky and does not like to run 2133 anymore cause switching that has made it stable again. Running 4.8ghz right now at the same vcore when i first got the cpu so it haset degraded any sence i bought it even with very high vcore.
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Just a tidbit for some of you if you have issues with your cpu not being stable my cpu has started to bsod 101 so i thought maybe it degraded some sence i been running 1.48-1.52 vcore at 5ghz for like 8 months folding off and on and gaming. Well turned out my ram has got picky and does not like to run 2133 anymore cause switching that has made it stable again. Running 4.8ghz right now at the same vcore when i first got the cpu so it haset degraded any sence i bought it even with very high vcore.


Since the IMC is on chip it would appear their is at least some degradation if it's no longer capable of running the ram oc to 2133. If your troubles was corrected by lowering the demand on the IMC then how do you know increasing vcore wouldn't do the same thing to continue using the 2133 clock or maybe in this case maintaining your previously stable vcore you could try raising vccio, vdimm or both which may offer the same correction. Have you tried any of that? Also What is your current pll voltage? I understand this goes against convention because raising vcore is the accepted fix for 101 stop but in circumstance like yours I've seen good results trying that. LUK


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Since the IMC is on chip it would appear their is at least some degradation if it's no longer capable of running the ram oc to 2133. If your troubles was corrected by lowering the demand on the IMC then how do you know increasing vcore wouldn't do the same thing to continue using the 2133 clock or maybe in this case maintaining your previously stable vcore you could try raising vccio, vdimm or both which may offer the same correction. Have you tried any of that? Also What is your current pll voltage? I understand this goes against convention because raising vcore is the accepted fix for 101 stop but in circumstance like yours I've seen good results trying that. LUK

i use pll of 1.65 chip likes that alot lets me use less vcore i didnt really mess with the getting 2133 stable again but your right could be the cpu needs more vccio or ram volts. I was more focused on getting cpu stable thought it was degraded at first but after some playing around found it ran same vcore as always.
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before this i did some tweaking on bios..setting manual vcore at 1.435, Ultra high LLC, and some other things...but is it possible to lower the vcore to 1.35?some forumers managed to have even 4.7 around 1.37..and it seems mine only have stable 4.5ghz at 1.355...


not sure whether im right or wrong for the time being..but i just need some suggestions..currently im running 4.2..only tweak the multiplier..

For starters, I would give offset mode a shot -- it will help you keep temperatures down when the CPU is idling.

It's also possible that your stability issue is not only one of Vcore -- you could potentially get it stable at a lower core voltage by addressing other settings in your BIOS.

Can you post your complete system specs, or create a rig in your signature? It would be helpful for the discussion here if we knew exactly what you were working with besides the 2500K.
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