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Yeah, the ati cards don't really like crysis 2. To tell you guys the truth, 2 6850's($180each) was WAY faster in Crossfire than the 6990($750). In crysis 2, the 6850's were getting 45-55fps @ 5760x1080 but had a weird lag to it. You couldn't pin point when trying to follow someone running and shoot them. The 6990 @ 900/1350 was getting 30-40fps but not as laggy. Still no good. I tried everything I could to get it running. Besides the performance issue, the sound of the 6990 is just unbearable even at 65% fan speed. Above that is insane. If I wanted a Leaf Blower in my gaming room, I would of bought one.

ATI out the window in this setup now. I got 2 vanilla 580's 1.5gig and they are much better for 3 screens. Nvidia surround runs way smoother and looks far better. I'm not bashing ATI at all. They are a good company. The eyefinity just can't maintain 60fps locked. 2 580's are running 5760x1080 Extreme settings and it's locked at 60fps the whole time. Run's almost 2 times faster than the 6990. Way quieter also.

If your thinking of playing games on 3 screens and you want to play locked at 60fps, Nvidia is the way to go. I tried a 5870, 2x 6850's, and a 6990. All of them failed to do so at that high of a resolution. 2 580's was the answer.

And to those who told me to come to this thread for help and never gave that help, Thanks. Didn't need it. It was over at the GREEN camp
First off... I didnt know you needed help but I'm glad you found it somewhere...doesnt matter where you get it from. As for Crysis 2, it isnt exactly a super demanding game, hell it isnt even DX11....yet. The API can make a huge difference if the game isnt highly optimized like what you see with bare metal programming on consoles. Secondly, it would appear that the 6990 hasnt even hit it's stride yet with only the initial first WHQL driver release being available. I lean more towards the side of the game being optimized for one shader arch over the other, yet I see it becoming more on even ground in the future. Didnt Nvidia have a driver issue where in SLI, the frame cap would always be at 30ish fps? I could have swore that I read numerous threads about it...any ways, it turned out to be the driver, so dont count AMD out just yet. These are my opinions, and I dont expect you to agree with them so dont worry, just know that I respect your opinion so much that I wanted to interject my own.
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Ok, and how bout that sound. You going to take your 6990 out in the fall and blow the leafs off your driveway. That's about what it's good for. And yes, tried every driver/profile combo and after getting the best performance out of the 6990, THE 6850'S IN EYEFINITY RAPE THE 6990. I'm not talking about on a single monitor. I'm talking about 5760x1080. I can care less how much Vram it has if it doesn't do anything for you. I was able to play higher res with 1gb 6850's than the 4gb 6990. This is what I stated. Everyone was talking about the 4gb of Vram letting you play at way higher res than cards with lower Vram. From my experience this past week, with ati's cards this wasn't true.

Like I said, I wasn't bashing, I was informing. For "EYEFINITY" 2 6850's was on top of the 6990. I seen it myself. On 1 monitor, don't know, wasn't my goal. I did switch to 1920x1080 in Crysis 2 and it was locked at 60fps, but the other 2 screens were blank. Crysis 2 is the main title this guy was worried about, spending the least amount of money he had to so he could play on 3 lcd's. I tried 3 ways with ATI cards and all failed with Crysis 2.. Also 3 card's was out of the ? as he has a P6T Deluxe (2 cards only).. If you think that the 580s are overpriced, that's fine, we don't, we like playing locked at 60fps, not choppy all over the place.

It seemed like more of a game to get the drivers to work or all the issues out. For the 580's, it was install the cards, install the drivers, setup surround, and finally START PLAYING THE GAME LOCKED AT 60FPS AT 5760x1080 AT EXTREME SETTINGS. LOL

You can keep you 6990 and like it. Hope you have a box of ear plugs next to your pc
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First off... I didnt know you needed help but I'm glad you found it somewhere...doesnt matter where you get it from. As for Crysis 2, it isnt exactly a super demanding game, hell it isnt even DX11....yet. The API can make a huge difference if the game isnt highly optimized like what you see with bare metal programming on consoles. Secondly, it would appear that the 6990 hasnt even hit it's stride yet with only the initial first WHQL driver release being available. I lean more towards the side of the game being optimized for one shader arch over the other, yet I see it becoming more on even ground in the future. Didnt Nvidia have a driver issue where in SLI, the frame cap would always be at 30ish fps? I could have swore that I read numerous threads about it...any ways, it turned out to be the driver, so dont count AMD out just yet. These are my opinions, and I dont expect you to agree with them so dont worry, just know that I respect your opinion so much that I wanted to interject my own.
It seems that the drivers need to mature some. I was thinking of selling my Tri sli 480's to get a 6990. Boy was I wrong. Yes I paid way more and can. If money isn't a problem, don't you want what works? I do. This was the same for dirt 2 and bbc2. Both ran way better once we went to the 580's. Sorry it's like that. I still use ati cards for people running 1 screen, but I will not use them for 3. Side by side, I don't think eyefinity looks or feels as smooth as surround. My opinion.
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Ok, and how bout that sound. You going to take your 6990 out in the fall and blow the leafs off your driveway. That's about what it's good for. And yes, tried every driver/profile combo and after getting the best performance out of the 6990, THE 6850'S IN EYEFINITY RAPE THE 6990. I'm not talking about on a single monitor. I'm talking about 5760x1080. I can care less how much Vram it has if it doesn't do anything for you. I was able to play higher res with 1gb 6850's than the 4gb 6990. This is what I stated. Everyone was talking about the 4gb of Vram letting you play at way higher res than cards with lower Vram. From my experience this past week, with ati's cards this wasn't true.

Like I said, I wasn't bashing, I was informing. For "EYEFINITY" 2 6850's was on top of the 6990. I seen it myself. On 1 monitor, don't know, wasn't my goal. I did switch to 1920x1080 in Crysis 2 and it was locked at 60fps, but the other 2 screens were blank. Crysis 2 is the main title this guy was worried about, spending the least amount of money he had to so he could play on 3 lcd's. I tried 3 ways with ATI cards and all failed with Crysis 2.. Also 3 card's was out of the ? as he has a P6T Deluxe (2 cards only).. If you think that the 580s are overpriced, that's fine, we don't, we like playing locked at 60fps, not choppy all over the place.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions as well as their experiences, thats only one thing that makes this life so great. The fans were a little loud at 60% with 100% sounding like a hair-dryer in a case with 13x 120mm 96 cfm fans, but with the case fans at max it was only a little noticeable. another reason I switched to waterblocks. As for performance trouble in eyefinity... well I can say I had an issue in Metro 2033 at one time with 11.4, but upon a clean install the issue resolved itself. Other than that, my frames per second stay butter smooth maxed out in eyefinity with the games I've played.. Counterstrike: Source beta at 5760x1080 completely and utterly maxed out nets me 286fps with the video stress test benchmark. I own alot of games on steam. I am sorry that you had issues with the AMD cards you purchased, but I dont share those issues so there is a possibility that said issues may reside somewhere else besides the driver or cards. I had an issue where my FPS dropped substantially upon CPU OC of 4.6ghz, turns out I had set my QPI PLL too high, which since you own a 980X as well, I'm sure you know how temperamental these things are when a setting is too high or too low.


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It seems that the drivers need to mature some. I was thinking of selling my Tri sli 480's to get a 6990. Boy was I wrong. Yes I paid way more and can. If money isn't a problem, don't you want what works? I do. This was the same for dirt 2 and bbc2. Both ran way better once we went to the 580's. Sorry it's like that. I still use ati cards for people running 1 screen, but I will not use them for 3. Side by side, I don't think eyefinity looks or feels as smooth as surround. My opinion.
To that extent I completely agree with you, the drivers do need to mature. As for money concerns, have a look at my sig rig, and in my opinion I bought what works. I push all my hardware pretty hard, and so far I am amazed by the performance of the HD6990, and I have used three screens since day one with literally hundreds of games.. and even a few benchmarks. Like I said, I think your performance issues might have been less exclusive to the videocards, and more with some other things. I cannot speak for your experiences as you alone have them, and I do not in any way share them, but that being said I am very glad you found what suits you regardless of hardware brand.
    
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Ok, and how bout that sound. You going to take your 6990 out in the fall and blow the leafs off your driveway. That's about what it's good for. And yes, tried every driver/profile combo and after getting the best performance out of the 6990, THE 6850'S IN EYEFINITY RAPE THE 6990. I'm not talking about on a single monitor. I'm talking about 5760x1080. I can care less how much Vram it has if it doesn't do anything for you. I was able to play higher res with 1gb 6850's than the 4gb 6990. This is what I stated. Everyone was talking about the 4gb of Vram letting you play at way higher res than cards with lower Vram. From my experience this past week, with ati's cards this wasn't true.

Like I said, I wasn't bashing, I was informing. For "EYEFINITY" 2 6850's was on top of the 6990. I seen it myself. On 1 monitor, don't know, wasn't my goal. I did switch to 1920x1080 in Crysis 2 and it was locked at 60fps, but the other 2 screens were blank. Crysis 2 is the main title this guy was worried about, spending the least amount of money he had to so he could play on 3 lcd's. I tried 3 ways with ATI cards and all failed with Crysis 2.. Also 3 card's was out of the ? as he has a P6T Deluxe (2 cards only).. If you think that the 580s are overpriced, that's fine, we don't, we like playing locked at 60fps, not choppy all over the place.

It seemed like more of a game to get the drivers to work or all the issues out. For the 580's, it was install the cards, install the drivers, setup surround, and finally START PLAYING THE GAME LOCKED AT 60FPS AT 5760x1080 AT EXTREME SETTINGS. LOL

You can keep you 6990 and like it. Hope you have a box of ear plugs next to your pc
Idk if I even should answer... but what levesque was referring to was the 6990+6970=3 GPUs=U$1000 HERE vs your 580SLI, and a P6T motherboard can run then.
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Idk if I even should answer... but what levesque was referring to was the 6990+6970=3 GPUs=U$1000 HERE vs your 580SLI, and a P6T motherboard can run then.
Exactly.

But it's useless. He's obviously a troll, or a newb. So Ignore him. Let him go play in the other courtyard, where the grass is ''greener''.

Just tired of people saying that Nvidia have better drivers, and blah blah blah, when they obviously don't know what they are doing.

Obvious PEBKAC is obvious.
    
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I still use ati cards for people running 1 screen, but I will not use them for 3. Side by side, I don't think eyefinity looks or feels as smooth as surround. My opinion.
Funny. I'm using 3X30'' LCD, pushing 12 millions pixels without any problem. What are you using? 3X21''? LOL! I'm almost using 3 times more pixels, and it's working perfectly for me.

PEBKAC. Obvious.

And all my cards are watercooled, so no need for ear-plugs.
    
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my blue screen errors seem to be coming from my Ram, ran windows mem diagnostic and it said hardware errors have been found.

so pissed off, just when I thought my rig is complete I have to go through another freakin RMA process.

when will they start makign computer hardware that works.
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my blue screen errors seem to be coming from my Ram, ran windows mem diagnostic and it said hardware errors have been found.

so pissed off, just when I thought my rig is complete I have to go through another freakin RMA process.

when will they start makign computer hardware that works.
Which G.Skill ram are you using? Seems like some high speed stuff. Also, is Windows showing all the ram is available?
     
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EK-FC6990 - EN (Nickel) Windows 10 64bit Pro Gateway FHX2300 Logitech MK320 Wireless Desktop Keyboard  
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Originally Posted by ezveedub View Post
Which G.Skill ram are you using? Seems like some high speed stuff. Also, is Windows showing all the ram is available?
gskill ripjawsx 2133.

yes windows showing all ram available 8GB

I heard 95% of blue screens are ram issues whether or not the error code states so. I swapped the sticks around and some games stopped blue screening, but windows diagnostic test says errors found.
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i7 2600K @ 4.8Ghz 1.39v Gigabyte P67-UD5-B3 Sapphire 6990 & 6970 @ 930/1375 8GB G.Skill RipJawsX 1600 1.5v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
120GB OCZ Vertex2 SSD, 1TB WD Caviar Blue Samsung 22xDVD Win7 64x EyeFInitY ... 3 x Viewsonic VX2439 24" LCD 
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Razor Arctosa Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1000W Fractal Design Razor Abysuss 
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