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post #31 of 41
The main issue here isn't that it's open source. If you claim open source code as your own and release it under another license or anything that doesn't adhere to the original license you are still violating the license.
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post #32 of 41
Bionic is Google's implementation of the standard C library. They didn't copy the linux kernel. They simply created their own implementation, and released it under the BSD license.

libc isn't subject to any kind of Linux license. It a standard implemented in not just Linux, but on pretty much every operating system ever made.
    
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post #33 of 41
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Originally Posted by Bennylava View Post
Sounds like your precious "open source" isn't all that the linux trumpeters want everyone to think it is.
And what do they want everyone to think it is?
    
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post #34 of 41
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Hate all you want. In a corporate/business environment Linux really is all it's cracked up to be.
 
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And what do they want everyone to think it is?
Better than it is?

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Originally Posted by rebelextrm02 View Post
Hate all you want. In a corporate/business environment Linux really is all it's cracked up to be.
Awesome. Now in the desktop/personal environment? (which is what we were actually talking about fyi)
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post #36 of 41
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Bionic is Google's implementation of the standard C library. They didn't copy the linux kernel. They simply created their own implementation, and released it under the BSD license.

libc isn't subject to any kind of Linux license. It a standard implemented in not just Linux, but on pretty much every operating system ever made.
Err, what?


Also, according to wiki, the Apache license is "compatible" with the GPL. Not entirely sure what that means, but I take it to mean that the terms of the GPL require the source code to be available - something the Apache license also specifies (as far as I can tell). Apache isn't copyleft, meaning that you can take it and mod it, without being bound by the terms of the Apache license for your mods (but still liable for the original source). Under GPL, your mods are bound by GPL too, meaning you have to release the source code for your mods.

This doesn't seem like a big deal, all Google have to do is post the source code up to Dalvik and all the other bits under protest. Won't cost them a thing apart from a bit of webspace.

Linux co-exists with non-free code all the time (although admittedly, it's not absorbed into the kernel). That said, if I were to compile non-GPL code into the kernel (say, some hardware driver I've got the source for but not under GPL), I think I'd be violating the GPL if released a binary of my kernel and not the source, if I've understood the GPL right??
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post #37 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennylava View Post
Don't you dare say one bad thing about linux, ever. Ever. Its the best thing that ever happened to computers and if you disagree then you just don't know anything about computers and open source is the best thing ever and linux is the best thing, ever. If you disagree then you clearly have no idea how linux works cause if you did you'd never need windows again! Least of all to play games! Linux is so much better than everything!!



Something about General Public License? Or was it general purpose license... no it was the former. So at this point I'd have to ask you if you even know what it is. Cause I sure as he11 know what it sounds like. Sounds like your precious "open source" isn't all that the linux trumpeters want everyone to think it is.
Jeez, even I hate Linux, but at least I can answer this to SOME degree without turning things into a flamewar.

GPL means that the code becomes public, and MUST STAY public under that same license. You know how sometimes you download a free program, and the installer tells you "If you paid money for this download, you just got ripped off!"? That's the sort of thing they're trying to avoid. Google did not release Android under GPL, so they've kind of taken away the associated freedoms.

Stay out of the flamewar kool-aid, bro.
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post #38 of 41
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Jeez, even I hate Linux, but at least I can answer this to SOME degree without turning things into a flamewar.

GPL means that the code becomes public, and MUST STAY public under that same license. You know how sometimes you download a free program, and the installer tells you "If you paid money for this download, you just got ripped off!"? That's the sort of thing they're trying to avoid. Google did not release Android under GPL, so they've kind of taken away the associated freedoms.

Stay out of the flamewar kool-aid, bro.
This is one of the strangest readings of GPL I have seen in a while.
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Since when has Linux had a copyright? I thought it was open source, and then could be used for any distro...
     
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The guy who said this is the same guy who tried to say they included files, which they didn't even include.

In this case, code headers are not the same as code. Nothing new to see here. Move along.

This is coming from a linux user too.
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