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Ok guys, I am just now ordering the last parts of my first ever build, and definitely want to watercool my cpu and 6990 (EK and Koolance have full blocks due out in a week or two). I basically have thought of three options, let me know what you guys think...

1. XSPC Rasa RX360 Kit ~180USD

2. EK H3O Supreme HF 360 Kit ~280USD

3. DIY - Rasa RX360 Rad ~85 from sidewinder
- EK Supreme HF block (nickel/plexi) ~78 from sidewinder
- Pump (need help here)
- Res (also need help here)
- PrimoChill UV Blue tubing 10ft(enough?) ~23 from FrozenCpu
- Fittings (would like to go with compression, need some help here)
- Fans/controller
- temp meters pre and post rad

All above options do not include the 6990 full block, but I assume it'll run between 125-175. I do not plan on getting another video card, or cooling my ram or hdd or mobo so this is the loop I will stick with for a while I assume. I'd like to keep it under $600 if possible.

Thanks!!! and here's the link to my buildlog (its boring now until the parts start arriving) click here
    
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^bump... any help?
    
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post #3 of 15
go with the third option. i don't believe in the kits since I feel you can get more bang for your buck by buying better proper parts the first time.

I've ordered through sidewinder two or three times and have always been good experiences. they usually don't do sales or deals because their prices are about as low as gary can make them from the start.

performancepcs.com out of flordia is the other place that I order parts from. great service and fast shipping as well.

DIY - Rasa RX360 Rad ~85 from sidewinder
- EK Supreme HF block (nickel/plexi) ~78 from sidewinder

- Pump (need help here) swifttech d5 w/ adjustable speed setting
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmc12vdcpu.html

- Res (also need help here) this has alot to do with personal preference on how you wish to set up your system. i like bay resevoirs personally but it's up to you.
this is the one i have.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsacdu5refor1.html

- PrimoChill UV Blue tubing 10ft(enough?) ~23 from FrozenCpu try getting the tubing performancepcs.com it should be cheaper with shipping than frozencpu.

- Fittings (would like to go with compression, need some help here) in all honesty i haven't seen bad compression fittings. i've seen bad rotary fittings from everyone at one point in time however. if you go with barb fittings then get the fatboy fittings from dangerden. they are awesome and I never ran any type of clamp over them.

- Fans/controller
personal preference. lamptron makes good ones.

- temp meters pre and post rad
you can use temp meters that come with your fan controller(if they have it) but it's not necessary to have them.

*** don't forget to grab some pt nuke and a silver coil if you aren't using silver fittings. I used the tygon silver antimicrobial tubing and it worked great, but it stained EVERYTHING in my loop grey and it was not something I really expected. you should be fine with the tubing your going with but if you ever go tygon then i suggest you stay away from the silver tubing.
Edited by soilentblue - 3/18/11 at 12:50pm
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awesome +rep thanks for the info!
    
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The XSPC Kit is by far the best deal in terms of cost/performance ratio. It will get you within 2-3C of a full custom loop for about half the cost.

The custom look will perform slightly better and look better. If desire every last drop of performance, get the XSPC Rasa kit. Based on your sig rig, the price difference between the two options is not a huge deal.

Finally, I would get the EK 6990 block. EK makes the best GPU blocks (I have Koolance because EK doesn't make a full cover GTX 460 block).

Look at Skinnee Lab's review on the GTX 480 waterblocks to see how well EK performs on high end GPUs.
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The XSPC Kit is by far the best deal in terms of cost/performance ratio. It will get you within 2-3C of a full custom loop for about half the cost.

The custom look will perform slightly better and look better. If desire every last drop of performance, get the XSPC Rasa kit. Based on your sig rig, the price difference between the two options is not a huge deal.

Finally, I would get the EK 6990 block. EK makes the best GPU blocks (I have Koolance because EK doesn't make a full cover GTX 460 block).

Look at Skinnee Lab's review on the GTX 480 waterblocks to see how well EK performs on high end GPUs.
thanks for the suggestions, the EK block looks amazing I hope they finish it soon! So you think I would be ok getting the Rasa 360 kit instead of putting it together on my own? I really do want max performance, and an extra hundred or two is ok to get the custom look and best temps. let me know what you think +rep btw
    
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thanks for the suggestions, the EK block looks amazing I hope they finish it soon! So you think I would be ok getting the Rasa 360 kit instead of putting it together on my own? I really do want max performance, and an extra hundred or two is ok to get the custom look and best temps. let me know what you think +rep btw
I disagree with buying that kit if you want max performance and the custom look you want as well as best temps.

ek had great temps but there have been plenty of fitment problems with them for both the fittings as well as the cards themselves. don't forget their nickle plating chipping or fading. i honestly forget. i'm not saying they don't build a great product, but their qc of the product before it is released is low compared to everyone else.

that gtx 480 test is old, things have changed since then. ek is not the best at cooling and if they were then they wouldn't be changing their internal cooling design.

bundymania:
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FYI: EK´s is releasing a new internal design with more filigrane fins and i´m hoping that this new design is already used here ! Otherwise, performance from Swiftech and Koolance blocks should be better....again.
tiborrr from ek:
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bundymania is right, the FC6990 features the new cooling engine
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While EK doesn't always offer the absolute lowest core temperatures, they do offer a good mix of low core and VRM temperatures, low restriction, good looks and decent price. That being said, other manufacturers offer different mixes of those traits that may be more desirable for you. For example, Danger Den offers blocks with slightly lower core temperature in exchange for extremely low pressure drops and very good VRM temperatures. Koolance gets lower VRM and core temperatures than EK but is more restrictive and generally costs more than a similar EK model.

Those are generalizations but I have found them to be true for the majority of GPU blocks by these manufacturers. The differences being discussed are really small anyways, under 2C difference for core temp and 20C for VRM. Get a GPU block that you like. Read reviews, and make an informed decision.
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Just ordered! Was a bit more than I wanted to spend, but I got what I wanted (a bit of overkill I know ) Will set up the RX360 up top, with the RX120 on bottom, and will order the 6990 block when it is released in a couple weeks.

Shopping Cart Contents
1 x *** HOT *** XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25" Bay Reservoir for Laing D5
- Water Pump: With a speed controller (part # MCP655) $136.90
1 x 12" Cathode Light Kit Sleeved - Ultraviolet
- Sleeve Color: Black
- Heatshrink Color: UV Blue
- Extra 4" Cathode Tube (Sleeved): No Extra 4" Cathode Tube
- Extra 12" Cathode Tube (Sleeved): Extra UV 12" Tube $20.99
4 x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120 mm by Nidec Servo Corp. - Medium Speed - Sleeved
- Sleeve Color: Black
- Heatshrink Color: Black $59.80
1 x *** NEW *** Scythe KM03-BK "KAZE MASTER PRO" 5.25" Bay Mountable 6 Channel Fan Controller - Black $39.95
1 x XSPC RX120 Extreme Performance Radiator
- Nozzles: Add Pair Bitspower Compression Fitting 1/2" ID 3/4" OD $68.70
2 x *** NEW *** Bitspower G1/4 Matte Black Rotary Compression Fitting-ID 1/2" OD 3/4" $25.20
1 x *** NEW *** EK-Supreme HF High Flow-Highest Performance CPU Water Block NK - Blue Plexi/Black
- Fitting Size: 1/2" Barb for 1/2" ID tube $79.95
1 x IandH Silver KillCoils - Antimicrobial .999 Fine Silver Tubing / Reservoir Strip $6.99
15 x *** NEW *** PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Blue Tubing -1/2in. ID X 3/4in. OD $33.75
1 x *** NEW *** IandH Dead-Water Copper Sulfate Biocidal PC Coolant Additive $4.99
1 x XSPC RX360 Extreme Performance Radiator
- Nozzles: Add Pair Bitspower Compression Fitting 1/2" ID 3/4" OD $103.70

Sub-Total: $580.92
United Parcel Service (1 x 23.15lbs) (Ground): $20.14
Total: $601.06
    
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Silver kill coil and PT-Nuke? Overkill.

Anyways, rest of the build looks great. I think you'll be very satisfied with your build.
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