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First let me start by saying I'm sorry about posting this in the laptop forums first I immediately edited it out, I'm terribly sorry

So I will be a first time builder, I've been wanting to do this for awhile, I've been researching these parts, and so I would like to know what you all think about them, and I would like to hear your input! Now before I list the parts, I do I have a budget of around $500 and I know that isn't a lot for a gaming computer, but we all have to start somewhere right?

Although this won't be a top notch gaming computer, I would like to be able to upgrade the system in the future. If you think I could do with different parts, please let me know!

I also am building this computer for mainly two reasons,

One: To get the experience, since I love computers, and

Two: To play Fallout 3 (Not New Vegas).

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130295

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-180-_-Product

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139018

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103921

HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136073

OS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754

Now there are two cases I am completely torn over:

Case One:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144251

Case Two:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119227

For the DVD drive I was just going to use one out of my HP Slimline Desktop.

All of this will come out to about $500.00, give or take depending on the case.

Please remember I won't be gaming heavy at the beginning, but I want to have the option to beef up my system if I ever want to. I already have a monitor (18" HP) and a keyboard and mouse (HP, Wired).

Thanks,
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Yet again..

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Originally Posted by ronnin426850 View Post
NOT this mobo.
Not 1 or 2 MSI boards have bursted in flames lately, especially 4+1 phase without MOSFET cooling.
Get ASUS or AsRock.

Also, you haven't linked a GPU It'd be hard to play Fallout 3 without one
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Okay so I am going to sound horribly dumb but, what exactly is a GPU? I know it stands for Graphics Processing Unit, but I thought that was what a video card was, and the MoBo said it had on-board video? Wow that sounds really stupid lol.
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Some motherboards will have integrated video, but don't expect to play any modern games on them without having to turn the settings really low. Usually, it's a good idea to go for a good, dedicated video card right away if you want to play games on it at all.

here is a link to a pretty good deal on a good video card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121390

the only downside is you may need to increase the wattage of your power supply.

Hope that helped.

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Okay so I am going to sound horribly dumb but, what exactly is a GPU? I know it stands for Graphics Processing Unit, but I thought that was what a video card was, and the MoBo said it had on-board video? Wow that sounds really stupid lol.
Yes, yes, you are absolutely right.
BUT the on-board graphic cards are very weak, and are only good for watching movies and running the Windows Aero theme, but not for gaming.
For an example, my on-board video (IGP - Integrated Graphics Processor) has about 1000 3D Marks, where a discrete GPU gives me 15000 3D Marks and allows me to play Crysis (or any game for that matter).

Playing anything more complex than Chess is impossible with mobo IGPs.
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The GPU IS the graphics card. Just say graphics card, it's what a lot more people say instead of video card so it's a lot easier to just say it.

Instead of getting this motherboard, I'd get an ASUS instead - more trustworthy and MSI isn't exactly popular in the motherboard department anymore. Don't get that hard drive, it's over rated and completely useless, get the Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB for just $10 as it's a lot faster, cooler, quieter and a lot more.

This is the Motherboard I'd get: Asus M4A87TD/USB3
It's what I have so I can definitely recommend it for a first time. There's an open box on NewEgg right now for $75 so I'd get that, it has warranty so don't worry.

For the CPu don't get that one, get this C3 Revision Athlon instead as it's basically the same in gaming and a lot more trustworthy if you aren't overclocking it past 3.6GHz: AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.0GHz - It's $10 less than the one you chose so there's your $10 back from the hard drive.

For the RAM, I'd get something else instead of that G.Skill... the RAM that I have right now is perfect for somebody like you. I was in your position after all, trying to build a computer on a budget similar to this, I'd get the Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB DDR3 1333 Kit, they can get up to 2200MHz so you're fine with them.

Also you're going to need a GPU - a graphics card, if you plan on playing games.

YOU CAN NOT PLAY ANYTHING DECENT WITHOUT A GRAPHICS CARD

Sorry, just had to put that there as simple and obvious to you as possible. A desktop might aswell be a laptop if it has no graphics card. I'd recommend a GTX 460 if you can, if not then a GTS 250 is fine. Get the 1GB version of either, anything less is starting to become useless very, very fast.

And there it is. I always say that a decent gaming computer always starts at $600, but you could possibly squeeze one out of $500. Just try my advice and you should easily have a great gaming machine in no time.

Currently I can play any game out right now completely fine at very good graphics settings, it's rare I have to turn anything down.
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Ronnin:

Okay how does this Mobo sound to you?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157199

Zapdos:
Okay I understand ya but honestly, adding a $150 to the $500 is pushin it so it wouldn't hurt to hold off on buying the Video card for awhile would it? I'll be entertained enough with chess

Also I was actually told before that ATI Radeon HD 4250 would run FO3. This is why I do so much research.

And on another side note, my floor is carpeted and I really would hate to set it on that carpart and block the fans, and my desk isn't big enough to hold it, so any suggestions? Thanks a lot you guys.
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The 4250 definitely will not play Fallout 3, maybe at 5FPS on lowest graphics settings, but nothing else. Even the 4550 would have trouble.

I'm really sorry but to put it bluntly, you can't just say it's not worth adding the extra $150 onto the price of your gaming computer. Just trust us on this one, that integrated graphics will not play ANYTHING even worth touching. You will be stuck with games from maybe 2004 and backwards, and even then most will lag.

Just get a $100 card if you really have to, a GTS 250 1GB should be around this price. I built both of my brothers computer with this card and it plays Far Cry 2 on medium - high settings at 45FPS for example. Whilst the integrated on your motherboard would achieve something under 10 at lowest.
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Okay WaterMe, that Mobo is just am little too expensive but what about this one? I'm really on a tight budget and it really sucks but I have to make the best of it, ya know?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157199

Also what would you suggest my power supply wattage would be, since I will be getting that Graphics card? 500W wouldn't be enough? I know I'm sounding like a noob but I don't want to get one that is too small. Corsair seems like a awesome brand.
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I think this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131651R is a pretty solid motherboard (maybe recommended by someone above?). Open box for $75.

This power supply, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371015, is pretty solid at $70 with free shipping - I've been using one for the past three years with no problems.

I haven't used this CPU, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103846, but I think I've seen good things written about it on the forum. And it's $90.

This graphics card, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150448, would probably be fine as well, but I've never used it myself. Solid reviews, though, for around $115. Like everyone else said, not worth skipping this step.

It's probably worth coming up with a bit more money to try and build a good solid rig that will last a few years than to build something with $500 now that won't quite live up to what you want.

So yeah, that stuff plus your OS, RAM, hard drive and case might come out around $600?

I'm sure someone else can post and tell you about the quality of those components I linked to - the people on here have used everything.

edit: Also maybe read this thread - http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...l#post12774546. Someone doing a sub $600 build, got some really good suggestions for something around $550-575.
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