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Hello! I recently picked up an Asus PC from best buy along with a new 500w power supply and 1gb gddr5 graphics card. The CPU is an i5 650 3.2ghz. I've always wanted to overclock a cpu myself and tweak various other things to optimize my performance so I started looking into all the procedures. First, I tried just straight rebooting to BIOS and changing the FSB and all that goodness, but my BIOS was locked.
I later found out that people with similar motherboards to mine usually change this stuff in a tab called 'AI Tweaker' or 'Jumperless Config?' or something like that, neither of which are present in my BIOS (I was in CPU Configurations or whatever it is), and it didnt seem to want to let me change anything important. So I read more and see that maybe my bios is out of date (Unlikely, PCs less than a month old and BIOS is dated late '10), but I cant even get my motherboard model (CM5675-09) to pull anything up on the site.

I hear there are some programs like softfsb that will let you change BIOS settings but when I could only find a 32 bit version which didnt want to play along with 64 bit windows. Any ideas? I'm hoping to get as close to 4.0ghz as possible without extreme cooling methods. On a much smaller note, I could use a few points towards some cost effective heating solutions. The stock fan/heatsink on the CPU is monstrous but my CPU temps top out as high as 110-114F when running benchmarks and that's without any CPU adjustments. Do they make universal side doors for PC cases? Replacing the vented side with a vent + fan combo im sure would help a lot?
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You probably won't be able to overclock, as you have a pre-built.
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Can't overclock period? A buddy of mine bought the exact same PC except it's got an AMD Phenom II X4 and he was able to overclock. So what is it I need to swap out here?
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Can't overclock period? A buddy of mine bought the exact same PC except it's got an AMD Phenom II X4 and he was able to overclock. So what is it I need to swap out here?
I really doubt it's possible. The min diference between your and his PC (besides the CPU, obviously) is the motherboard. He may have gotten lucky and gotten an "unlocked" motherboard.

In order for you to overclock, you're going to have to switch out your motherboard and grab an aftermarket HSF. Before I can recommend a board, however, I have a few questions for you.
  1. How much are you willing to spend?
  2. How high do you plan on overclocking the chip? Many Core i3 chips (basically the Core i5 without turbo-boost) can overclock between 4.0GHz and 4.4GHz.
  3. Do you have a dedicated GPU?
As for the HSF, I recommend the CM Hyper 212+.
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Not sure how much I'm wanting to spend on a motherboard. May as well get a decent one since it's somewhat of a big thing to change out, but I haven't done any research on it yet. I do have a dedicated GPU; I'm running a 1GB GTS 450. I'm really not 100% on what I'm wanting to try to pull out of my i5 in the end but I know I'd at LEAST want to bump it up to 4.0GHz, I think that'd be pretty nifty.

That Hyper212 has been popping up everywhere and I like the price so I'm pretty sure I'll be going with that.

So yeah, I have no problems changing out my mobo,but I do sometimes forget all the compatibilities I'm supposed to check (socket, ram type, capacity, etc). I'd say I could maybe sink $100-$150 into a new mobo.
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Not sure how much I'm wanting to spend on a motherboard. May as well get a decent one since it's somewhat of a big thing to change out, but I haven't done any research on it yet. I do have a dedicated GPU; I'm running a 1GB GTS 450. I'm really not 100% on what I'm wanting to try to pull out of my i5 in the end but I know I'd at LEAST want to bump it up to 4.0GHz, I think that'd be pretty nifty.

That Hyper212 has been popping up everywhere and I like the price so I'm pretty sure I'll be going with that.

So yeah, I have no problems changing out my mobo,but I do sometimes forget all the compatibilities I'm supposed to check (socket, ram type, capacity, etc). I'd say I could maybe sink $100-$150 into a new mobo.
Here are the boards I came up with:There are quite a few differences between the boards (listed in order of importance):
  1. The Asus Maximus III Gene is a P55 board while the Asus P7H55-M Pro is a H55 board. H55 boards support the integrated graphics of the Core i3/i5. This won't be a big deal in your case, as you will be using your GTS 450 as a dedicated GPU. However, I've generally heard that P55 boards overclock higher than H55 boards (P55 is a better chipset).
  2. The Asus Maximus III Gene has two PCI-e x16 slots (and supports both Crossfire/SLI), while the Asus P7H55-M Pro only has one. This means it is much easier to upgrade your GPU in the future (you can just grab another GTS 450 for a SLI setup, rather than having to sell the card and buy a new one).
  3. The Maximus III Gene has much better MOSFET heatsinks. The MOSFET heatsinks are the one place, besides the North Bridge and CPU itself, that heat up the most when overclocking. Having a nice set of heatsinks on them makes it much easier to overclock without hitting high temps.
  4. The Asus Maximus III Gene has three more USB 2.0 ports, an eSATA II (3Gb/s) port, and a 1394a (FireWire) port.
  5. The Asus Maximus III Gene has 7 SATA II ports, while the Asus P7H55-M Pro only has 6.
  6. The Asus P7H55-M Pro has one PATA (IDE) connector, while the Asus Maximus III Gene doesn't have one. I really doubt this will be of any importance to you.

There really isn't too large of a selection of mATX LGA 1156 boards, but these come out to be the best. The Asus Maximus III Gene is clearly a better overclocker and has many more features, but is also around $60 more. I would recommend either of these boards, but especially the Maximus III Gene.

I wouldn't be surprised to see you hit 4.4+ with the Maximus III Gene. But of course this depends on your chip as well. And the overclocker himself.
Edited by thisischuck01 - 3/19/11 at 6:54pm
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