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I occasionally use tethering on my jb iphone, but I never use all that much data (maybe 20-30 mb in an afternoon once a month at most). If this is the case and they are mainly going after heavy-users, should I be worried? Or are they going after everyone the same and inspecting the packets?
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post
God I can't wait til my contract is up with these people. Moving back to tmobile. AT&T is the strictest of the giant cell providers here in the US. Bandwidth caps, high prices, bad customer service, spotty coverage...

BLEH!
Funny story.
AT&T bought T-Mobile.
The merger will be complete by the end of the year most likely.
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AT&T did NOT buy T-mobile. Get the facts straight please.

AT&T has made an agreement on price with the dutch telecom in purchasing T-mobile. It still has yet to pass through the gov't to be a complete deal. They are saying it will be a year away before they hope to have acquired T-mobile.
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Reminds me of the quote from Varric in DA2

The templars squeezed the mages, the mages rebelled. The more the mages rebelled, the harder they squeezed.
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AT&T did NOT buy T-mobile. Get the facts straight please.

AT&T has made an agreement on price with the dutch telecom in purchasing T-mobile. It still has yet to pass through the gov't to be a complete deal. They are saying it will be a year away before they hope to have acquired T-mobile.

The offer has been made and accepted and there is no reason to think the Govt wont let it happen as it violates no laws im aware of (granted im not a lawyer or specialist in anti-trust law).

The only thing keeping the statement "AT&T bought T-Mobile" from being completely factual is the off chance that the government does not allow it.

But ill concede the point.
Saying that AT&T has bought T-Mobile is not 100% factually correct at this time.
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I've been tethering on my Inspire 4G quite often recently.. still no rate plan change. You wanna know why? MyWi switches your data APN to the tethering APN because it uses the iPhone's builtin tethering capability. Tethering on Android does not change your APN, and therefore, for all AT&T knows, you're just accessing the data on your phone
I'm not a network guy, especially when it comes to wireless phone stuff, so I may say some of this wrong...but this seems incomplete. When you connect your tethered device to your phone, you must be doing essentially the same thing as with a wireless router connected to your home cable/DSL line: assigning individual devices to their own local IP addresses. And then the local IP addresses must be in the network packets being sent over the wireless connection. If this, or something like this, was NOT being done, then there would be no way to know where to send incoming packets...do they go to the phone or to one of the tethered devices?

So I say again, if they do packet inspection, I believe they can detect this and nail you if they trouble themselves to look. I don't believe you're bypassing their capabilites, they just are not exercising them right now. (I may not be a network guy, but I do supervise a network and network guys. There is nothing...literally nothing, with a capital N...that we cannot see people doing on the network if we bother to look. But we don't look for everything because there is just to much to look at!)

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this part: .. is OUTRAGEOUS!!! This is a free world ... you do NOT enroll me into anything without my permission ... and as others have said it, I use my unlimited data plan however the hell I want to.
You are correct, they cannot do this without your permission. But here's the funny part all the "ragers" here seem to overlook: if the right for AT&T (or whoever) to do this was spelled out explicitly in that 2-year contract that you signed but didn't read, then you gave them your permission even if you didn't know you were giving it.

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If this is the case and they are mainly going after heavy-users, should I be worried? Or are they going after everyone the same and inspecting the packets?
Hard to say. If you haven't gotten an e-mail like the other poster described, then you're apparently flying under the radar for the moment. But one would think that it would be easier for AT&T to defend the practice if they applied it consistently, so who knows how long you will escape notice.

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The offer has been made and accepted and there is no reason to think the Govt wont let it happen as it violates no laws im aware of (granted im not a lawyer or specialist in anti-trust law).
The big question is whether this creates a duopoly. Yes there will still be Sprint, but they will become less relevant in the big-boy marketplace; and a bunch of small carriers, which are already irrelevant. A duopoly does not provide robust price competition; the current 4-way does not really seem to be driving prices down, so the concern is probably that prices may actually rise. I have also heard concerns that a similar merger in the past, where AT&T bought up one of the "Baby Bells", did not provide the described customer benefits and may have actually been detrimental to the local consumer market.

AT&T's pro-merger argument does not focus on competition at all really, but focuses more on coverage. By using T-Mobile's spectrum, AT&T claim that they will be able to improve coverage where it is not ideal now, and expand broadband coverage to something like 95% of the US. That aligns well with Obama's stated agenda on broadband coverage (something like 98% I think), so this marketing may buy support from the Obama administration.

I think it will go through myself, but probably with some strings/regulations attached.
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post
God I can't wait til my contract is up with these people. Moving back to tmobile. AT&T is the strictest of the giant cell providers here in the US. Bandwidth caps, high prices, bad customer service, spotty coverage...

BLEH!
Maybe not...
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The big question is whether this creates a duopoly. Yes there will still be Sprint, but they will become less relevant in the big-boy marketplace; and a bunch of small carriers, which are already irrelevant. A duopoly does not provide robust price competition; the current 4-way does not really seem to be driving prices down, so the concern is probably that prices may actually rise.
It seemed to be driving down prices in my opinion. Call any mobile any time? T-mobiles new unlimited data plan? Sprints buyback program?

Doing away with yearly updates was a huge hit to both Verizon and Sprint so I can't list that as a pro. Handset prices haven't changed much either. Pricing aside, in my opinion T-mobile was getting the best phones before anyone else.
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I was tethering the other day through MyWi with no issues, but I'm on 4.0.1.
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I've been tethering on my Inspire 4G quite often recently.. still no rate plan change. You wanna know why? MyWi switches your data APN to the tethering APN because it uses the iPhone's builtin tethering capability. Tethering on Android does not change your APN, and therefore, for all AT&T knows, you're just accessing the data on your phone
True. If one bothers to look at how Android does it, navigate to:

Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names

There should be separate profiles for 3G/HSDPA and Tethering. The thing is, if a person uses any third-party tethering app to stream data to other wireless devices, the APN profile does not automatically change to the Tethering one. That means, AT&T cannot know if a user uses his/her data to stream to different devices; it still uses the default internet profile.
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