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Sony has agreed to pay any travel expenses, along with all reasonably living expenses while there.
I didn't know that. It's a joke for Geo to refuse that then. He has no reason to not go other than to be a little prick about it.
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Go Geohotz!
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Yea, as a lawyer I can say that Japan's intellectual property laws are probably nowhere as developed or as strict as California's (think Silicon Valley), so George would have a tactical advantage there, not being pinned down by so many laws. It's not about travel expenses and such, that's trivial.

Go Geohot! Fight the good fight!
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I didn't know that. It's a joke for Geo to refuse that then. He has no reason to not go other than to be a little prick about it.
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Yea, as a lawyer I can say that Japan's intellectual property laws are probably nowhere as developed or as strict as California's (think Silicon Valley), so George would have a tactical advantage there, not being pinned down by so many laws. It's not about travel expenses and such, that's trivial.

Go Geohot! Fight the good fight!
ugh...for those that didn't bother to read the article, this isn't about what country he should be tried in, it is about what state has jurisdiction...does sony have the right to have him tried in california or does geohot have the right to be tried in his him home state?

as this is a civil case, it is very important to where he is tried...

since it is a "internet" crime he committed, it is actually very hard to determine where the crime was committed...yes he committed the crime in his home state, but he distributed the "hack" on the internet.

now what sony wants is evidence to support their claim that the crime was committed in the state of california, and it should be tried there, as our constitution allows inter-state extradition for civil or criminal cases.

thats why sony wants access to his emails, paypal, harddrives, to prove that he recieved money from "financial" backers in the state of california, and why they are pointing out that the sdk eula states that sony usa is the owner of it...if geohot can prove that his crime was committed against sony japan, then sony usa can only try him in his home state, as sony japan would have no jurisdiction or power of extradition.
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As Geohot's crack has spread to China and is also to be found on Chinese servers he should be tried here, that should make Sony go into panic mode.

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Lol, loving how Geo is potentially only screwing HIMSELF by pointing out that Sony Japan should be the one fighting him. If that's what he wants, I hope that's what he gets. It was kind of pointless bringing that up though because he committed the crime within the US. Sony California is still Sony and so long as they do have authorized control of Sony software they can take action themselves.

US prisons really are a joke compared to prisons in other countries. US prisons are covered by billions of our tax dollars to make sure every prisoner has a cozy cell with 3 warm meals a day. It's ridiculous, really, but there's no other way to get the funding for it. Either kill every prisoner (not going to happen in the US) or house them in a prison with tax money. That aside, I don't think Geo would be going to PRISON over this. He's more likely to be paying off his crime for the rest of his life than to be imprisoned.
The reason why you are defending the corporatocracy so vehemently is? I assume you have vested interests to see Sony and firms win.
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I didn't know that. It's a joke for Geo to refuse that then. He has no reason to not go other than to be a little prick about it.
Why should he go to California? Why can't Sony come to NJ? They have no reason to not go other than to be a little prick about it.

See what I did there?
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Ugh... there's no way in hell he would be extradited to Japan. Are you kidding me? It's one thing to commit a crime in Japan. It's another to create a CIVIL dispute in the USA with a company. You guys really have a wild imagination.
Seriously. These people are confusing the crap out of me. They keep saying the case is Geohotz Vs Sony and then they are mentioning jail time. Sony can't send someone to Jail. If it was criminal it would be the US vs Geohotz. Or the State of Cali vs Geohotz.

People Civil != Criminal. English Common Law it's seperated. I know a lot of European countries use napoleonic code where Civil Law is everything.

He's not going to jail until he gets tried in a criminal court.
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Yea, as a lawyer I can say that Japan's intellectual property laws are probably nowhere as developed or as strict as California's (think Silicon Valley), so George would have a tactical advantage there, not being pinned down by so many laws. It's not about travel expenses and such, that's trivial.

Go Geohot! Fight the good fight!
Mmmm. Another potential advantage of bringing Sony of Japan is he will not be bound by California civil IP laws which are probably more severe. In fact he will probably be held by federal civil law and/or treaties which are also again less severe.

This could seriously get booted straight to the Supreme Court if it ends up Sony of Japan vs Geohotz.
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FU Sony.
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As Geohot's crack has spread to China and is also to be found on Chinese servers he should be tried here, that should make Sony go into panic mode.



The reason why you are defending the corporatocracy so vehemently is? I assume you have vested interests to see Sony and firms win.
Nope. The only Sony branded product I own is a PS3. I've owned it for about a year now, have 3 games, and have only played through God of War 3 entirely. The other 2 games I have are MGS4 and Socom. I played about 20 minutes worth of those. I have no benefit in Sony winning, I just have some common sense as to what the point of closed source software is. If it was totally fine for software to be torn apart and modified as one pleases, then it is rather retarded to have ever created the "open" or "closed" source distinctions.

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Why should he go to California? Why can't Sony come to NJ? They have no reason to not go other than to be a little prick about it.

See what I did there?
If I murdered your entire family when I came on a trip to New York, and you want to convict me in court, do you feel it is just for YOU to have to come to MY state of residence to convict me? I hate to use such an extreme example, but you're morally and legally blind if you feel it's right for the person breaking the law to have the decision of where to be convicted or tried. When you get a speeding ticket and contest it, you are assigned to court in that city outside of extraordinary circumstances that uncommonly have exceptions. Geo's little trick reached across the entire planet within several minutes. Sony damn well has the right to try him in any court they please within the U.S. so long as they are established in that state.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 3/21/11 at 7:43pm
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