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one is quad core, other is quad core with hyper threading
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What is the real difference between the i5-2500k and i7-2600k besides the obvious 100 dollar gap in the price The clock speed gain seems minimal, even with turbo boost. I plan to do video editing and light gaming and I understand that the i5 is better for gaming? How about editing? What does each offer for OCing? Not that you would really need too

I know you will guide me in the right direction

i7-2600k
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http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-072-_-Product

Hi

I'm glad I went i7 2600k
She's mint

And I have tried with HT turned off! And game run the same as when it's on!
But Windows feels faster with it on
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Hey man, you are getting a lot of mixed signals. Let me see if I can help explain what they are all saying in one post. Btw I use caps for emphasis, not to yell.

The i5 (2500K) has a lower STOCK speed than i7 (2600K) [From here on out i'll refer to them as the i5 and i7 accordingly]. However, the MAJOR advantage to getting a Sandybridge processor is their ability to overclock with extreme ease. So because of this we can quite honestly, write off the stock speeds. Even a complete beginner can get the 2 processors to the same clock speeds.

Someone else made reference to the GPU's that are on-die. Ignore ANYTHING they say about that. Not that they aren't correct, but it's worthless information because I'm 99% sure you'll be getting a discrete graphics card? I hope!

Another difference between the two is cache. the i5 only has 6mb while the i7 has 8mb. While this is a relatively significant amount, I don't feel that in the grand scheme of things you'll recognize a performance difference.

Most importantly, HyperThreading. ONLY the i7 has hyperthreading which makes each PHYSICAL cpu core show up and function as though it were two cores. This is important if you did a lot of video rendering/encoding or folding@home. No games take advantage of the "8" THREADS and only a select few even take advantage of the "4" CORES. This is where it ALL boils down to, this decision of do you, or do you not want HyperThreading.

People are trying to explain their opinions on if the extra $100 difference between the i5 and the i7 model is fair. My OPINION is yes it's worth it. However, I do a lot of video encoding so I use the 8 threads to their fullest on my i7. If you do video games, word documents, internet, music, e-mail, skype, what ever else you can think of along those lines. Then the i5 will be MORE than enough for you. And if you do video editing or folding THEN the i7 would be a good choice, otherwise the HyperThreading is going to waste. So to leave you with this, think about if you'll do video editing or folding...if you answer that "Yes" then get the i7...if you answered "No" then go with the i5 and put that $100 you saved towards a SSD or a better GPU. Good luck.

P.S. - Don't forget these are my opinions as well, if you want the i7 to be able to say you have the i7...you're on Overclock.net...we'll understand! GL HF!
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There are a FEW games that show a noticable performance boost with hyperthreading. GTA4 is one of them.

As games start to use more than four threads (soon, as developers know that people have HT cpu's), the 2600K will pull away more from the 2500k.

The extra 2mb of cache makes a small difference, not enough to be noticed outside of benchmarks.

2600k's TEND to overclock slightly higher than 2500k's, although this is NOT a rule, but just a general tendency. There are more golden 2600k's that can do 5 ghz stable under 1.4v than 2500k's, but there are some 2500k's that can do that too.

Not sure about the multiplier walls needing PLL enabled, but I believe the 2500k might have a lower ceiling than the 2600k for needing PLL enabled (either 1 or 2 multipliers lower)

The chances that you have a chip that needs high vcore at 4.5 ghz is higher with a 2500k than a 2600k. A few 2500k's have needed more than 1.35v load at 4.5 ghz. Haven't seen a 2600k needing that yet, although there have been plenty needing over 1.3.

2500k is your bang for the buck chip. If cash is limited, get the 2500k, and use the $100 for more RAM or a SATA blu ray drive. If you aren't hurting for cash, get the 2600k.
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I think I will go i7, because my original goal was to keep my board and CPU under or as close to $400 as possible, I don't plan on using the on board graphics but plan on possibly overclocking, could somebody recommend me a good P67 Board?

Do you have to turn off HT to OC? In that case how far will Turbo Boost alone push the chip?
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HT Doesn't have to be turned off to OC. Just you tend to be able to OC further/lower volts/lower heat with it off.

Get the i5.
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HT Doesn't have to be turned off to OC. Just you tend to be able to OC further/lower volts/lower heat with it off.

Get the i5.
I think I'm going i7, I've read reviews, a few benchmarks and checked out Anandtech's benchmark comparisons and found the i7 is better for encoding and video creation. I think it should be the right choice

But the i5 did better in one of them... the difference seems minimal though....
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I think I'm going i7, I've read reviews, a few benchmarks and checked out Anandtech's benchmark comparisons and found the i7 is better for encoding and video creation. I think it should be the right choice

But the i5 did better in one of them... the difference seems minimal though....
You'll be glad you did
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You'll be glad you did
But if they are about neck and neck as far as bench marks, what good is hyper threading?
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But if they are about neck and neck as far as bench marks, what good is hyper threading?
Good point
But it's not all about games!

I'll test some encoding (HT on and off) and post soon
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