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Originally Posted by Izvire View Post
Umm..

RTS = Real-Time Strategy.
That's pretty much exactly what the Total War series is about.
Including Shogun 2
This. Civ 5 is an example of a turn-based strategy game.

I've played a lot of RTS games and the Total War series is one of the harder series. Games like StarCraft and C&C games are significantly easier to pick up, but they're a completely different games where resources and speed are vital while Total War is very strategy heavy.

If you're a good strategist or a "thinker", you'll feel more at home in Shogun 2 than games like StarCraft 2.
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^ and do not trust your cpu "allies"
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I wouldn't call any Total War games RTS (resource gathering/base building).
The campaign map is turn based but every battle (if you so choose) can be played and that is where it is real time strategy.

So unlike SC2 where that is simply RTS and unlike Civ 5 where that is turn based comes the total war games which bring the best of both worlds.
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Like Star Wars Empire At War
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I'm able to get Shogun 2 for 20 dollars, and I would like to know if this is a good game for someone who haven't played a RTS in a long while.

I see it's a good, from a RTS game standpoint with the professional and fan reviews giving good scores across the board.
I would get it

The game has a learning curve but its not very hard. Its also hella addictive, watch the hours melt away.
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get Starcraft 2, im not an rts guy, but i loved that game, best rts single player campaign ever.

I found empire total war to be boring in terms of story. I stopped caring and it was hard to manage such massive armies.
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post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by Izvire View Post
Umm..

RTS = Real-Time Strategy.
That's pretty much exactly what the Total War series is about.
Including Shogun 2
I would consider the Total War games a class of it's own instead of just calling it another RTS. These games do not necessarily focus on the the rock/paper/scissor approach like others game (Starcraft 2, Red Alert, so on) but instead a much more "broad and more in depth" scenario. It is a very different game from the rest of the bunch. There is economics, diplomacy, civilians and soldiers to consider when trying to succeed and dominate in the game.

When the game goes into battle-mode, it is focused on one single battle and there is no base building or resource gathering when you are in this mode. You have to work with what you have.

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Originally Posted by B!0HaZard View Post
This. Civ 5 is an example of a turn-based strategy game.

I've played a lot of RTS games and the Total War series is one of the harder series. Games like StarCraft and C&C games are significantly easier to pick up, but they're a completely different games where resources and speed are vital while Total War is very strategy heavy.

If you're a good strategist or a "thinker", you'll feel more at home in Shogun 2 than games like StarCraft 2.
All the TW games are turn-based when you play the compaign.

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Originally Posted by [nK]Sharp View Post
The campaign map is turn based but every battle (if you so choose) can be played and that is where it is real time strategy.

So unlike SC2 where that is simply RTS and unlike Civ 5 where that is turn based comes the total war games which bring the best of both worlds.
Appreciate you cutting my post in half when I mentioned about turn-based right below that quote.

Look up the definition of "Total War" and you guys will understand why I am not calling it an RTS game.
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Look up the definition of "Total War" and you guys will understand why I am not calling it an RTS game.
"Total war is a war in which a belligerent engages in the complete mobilization of all their available resources and population."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_war

I don't get it.
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"Total war is a war in which a belligerent engages in the complete mobilization of all their available resources and population."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_war

I don't get it.

"Total war is a war of unlimited scope in which a belligerent engages in a mobilization of all available resources at their disposal, whether human, industrial, agricultural, military, natural, technological, or otherwise, in order to entirely destroy or render beyond use their rival's capacity ..."


Games like Starcraft, Red Alert, SupCom and etc. focus only on the military aspect of eliminating your opponent.

That is only one of many weapons that can be used in Total War. A powerful economy or key diplomatic decisions can be used to give you an edge when eliminating another nation. Think of it as more weapons at your disposal when playing a Total War game.
    
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I'm loving Shogun 2 so far. I'm playing as the Uesugi on hard and man I'm having a tough time, but I'm holding on.
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