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Poll Results: Which setup is better and future proof?

 
  • 45% (128)
    P67 - You don't need anything else
  • 54% (151)
    Z68 - Newer technology is better
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post #11 of 91
i have no problems with P67 board, i think its just people don't know too much about motherboards, so know that bugs are normal. You will never have a bug-free board.

Anyways Z68 isn't out for a few months even at that you will be waiting.

hydra=crappy NF200 with more restrictions.
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post #12 of 91
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I keep hearing different release dates for the Z68s. Some say April. Others say late March. This is the first time I'm hearing April.

Is there any source for these claims?
post #13 of 91
i think second generation P67 boards are due to launch in april, you will be waiting till may/june
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post #14 of 91
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Originally Posted by n1tr0 View Post
The P67 still has plenty of issues, I'm returning my second (B3) board next week. I'll probably be waiting for the Z68 boards to come out before buying another replacement.
Z68 by itself doesn't offer a ton of advantages, but there are a couple things that may work out really nicely. SSD caching probably isn't a big deal if you can afford a ~256gb ssd, but if you're under 120gb, it'll probably be pretty helpful.

The big advantage will be if you lucid logix pans out. It lets you pair up multiple gpu's, not just exact same brand & model, like with crossfire and sli. Then you could use the integrated graphics on the desktop, and that plus whatever graphics cards you have for gaming.
Toms Hardware has a good writeup on the upcoming z68 lucid logix virtua as it pertains to the z68 and a single add-in graphics card, but there's also a hydra chip that lucid produces and some motherboard makers have integrated into their systems. that lets you mix & match graphics cards without utilizing the integrated video of the sandybridge processors.

On the P67 platform, watch for the ECS Black Extreme Series P67H2-A motherboard or the Sapphire Pure Black P67, they're both supposed to be released already and utilize the hydra technology. Almost forgot the MSI Big Bang Marshall, too bad it's eATX, so it's TOO BIG to fit in my case (and there's no way I'm getting rid of my FT-02!)...

Nothing's more future proof than a system that lets you slide your old #1 graphics card into the #2 position when you upgrade. I'd like to add an nvidia card to my system so I can get the physx advantage on games that support it, but also get a graphics boost on games that don't.
SSD caching seems like a pretty important feature. Especially since SSDs aren't that cost-effective as of yet.

Is lucid logix as effective as Crossfire or SLi? Does it offer any pros or cons? This is honestly the first time I've heard of such a feature.
post #15 of 91
Thread Starter 
Oh wait. P67s don't allow GPU overclocking. Do the Z68s allow for both CPU and GPU overclocking?
post #16 of 91
Yes, P67 allow GPU overclocking. Unless you're talking onboard GPU.
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post #17 of 91
yea with P67 you don't have any control over the iGPU, nor does it even work on P67, it also sucks for gaming and is pointless unless you are building a system for stuff other than gaming.
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post #18 of 91
Quote:
Originally Posted by B!0HaZard View Post
Better? Probably the Z68.
More future proof? None, they're the same socket and future proofing is more dependent on future CPU compatibility.

If you go P67, get the MSI P67A-GD55. I might be biased though...
I am gonna have to pass on that I just tested a GD65 and it has been the worst P67 board out of the ones I have tested (P8P67 Pro, Deluxe, MIV Etreme, and UD4)
post #19 of 91
Thread Starter 
Bot?

Quick Sync seems like a feature that'll be used a lot in the foreseeable future, but I guess it's only used for video transcoding and the like for the time being (correct me if I'm wrong). But by then, Ivy Bridge will be out and I'll probably just hop on that train when the time comes.

So I guess it all boils down to how much SSD caching is going to help. Which I'm assuming is supposed to help a lot. But by how much? I don't know the exact mechanics of how it works myself.
post #20 of 91
Quote:
Originally Posted by 636cc of fury View Post
I am gonna have to pass on that I just tested a GD65 and it has been the worst P67 board out of the ones I have tested (P8P67 Pro, Deluxe, MIV Etreme, and UD4)
Why? Do share your experiences. Do you have a thread with a comparison?
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