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Poll Results: Which setup is better and future proof?

 
  • 45% (128)
    P67 - You don't need anything else
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    Z68 - Newer technology is better
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post #21 of 91

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i have no problems with P67 board, i think its just people don't know too much about motherboards, so know that bugs are normal. You will never have a bug-free board.
I've been building PC's for almost 20 years, this is definitely one of the buggiest releases from Intel. I've built many, many systems with bug-free boards, I'm not sure why it should become acceptable now. Having your system go to sleep and wake up has been a pretty standard feature for more than a decade now.

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Anyways Z68 isn't out for a few months even at that you will be waiting.
We're already more than half way through March and the z68 chipset boards are expected early April... The Toms Hardware review of Lucidlogix's virtual-hydra software from a couple weeks ago was done on an un-named z68 board.

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hydra=crappy NF200 with more restrictions.

NF200 just allows additional PCIE channels, often it's used in conjunction with the Hydra chip, like on MSI's new Big Bang Marshall. I'm not sure how it can be compared with a solution like Hydra that allows non-similar cards to be used in a crossfire/sli fashion. The point I was making is that with a Hydra chip (not just their virtual software solution, ie. Hydra 200 chip) you could effectively add the graphics processing of the integrated video to your existing discrete video card, or array of video cards.

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The HydraLogix Engine
The HydraLogix engine analyzes the frame before rendering and intelligently distributes the rendering tasks between the GPUs on board. The frame decision mechanism resolves bottlenecks and inter-frame dependencies prior to rendering, in real time, such that there is near zero latency.

The HydraLogix engine is a generic solution for different games, as well as rendering methods and an auto-correct load-balancing scheme for scaling. For GPUs that are not identical in performance or in the manufacturer name; the HydraLogix engine allocates the resources appropriately during processing for optimization of the GPU rendering power.

Lucid is unique in finding a way to deploy high-level parallelism of graphics application with the best load balancing of the platform GPUs. It can decompose a complex scene, and then recompose each task into the correct final image. Achieving such challenges is what makes the solution "generic" and compatible with chipsets, GPUs and applications from any vendor.
     
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post #22 of 91
Well the goto sleep and wake up problem stems from the fact that CPU PLL Overvoltage doesn't do well with S3 sleep, its a known intel issue, and that is why many companies were very slow to adopt it, because when you OC with CPu PLL Overvoltage and come back from S3 sleep the OC fails.

IDK how intel will deal with it for Z68, but that is just a problem we have to live with for P67.

as far as i know in performance benchmarks hydra loses to NF200. My question is if its so great, why don't asus and gb use it?
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post #23 of 91
Most of the time the Lucid Hydra being active with 2 cards of an sort gives worse performance than 1 card actually.

Recent articles are also hinting that the overclocking in Z68 won't be any different from P67.
post #24 of 91
if you go to cp panle fill out your current system specs. so we know how to help ya. i would get a mobo now the extra gpu hookup only good if gpu dies .
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post #25 of 91
Bult-in Intel GPU is crap for games, it's only good for video encoding (Quick Sync feature), but is very good at it. I researched this topic a while back when I was still unsure about my P67 vs Z68 position. On average it's close to about 3 times faster than the conventional video encoding. Apparently it even has better image quality. But to be honest, not many people do video encoding, me not being one of them. So it wouldn't really matter to me.

I'd say wait for it if you're into video encoding, skip it otherwise.
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post #26 of 91
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i have no problems with P67 board, i think its just people don't know too much about motherboards, so know that bugs are normal. You will never have a bug-free board.
This +1. You have to remember, no one comes on the forums and makes endless threads talking about how they didn't have issues with their motherboards. Most boards run fine, like Sin said.

For the z68 I'm going to pass on it, I use a GPU. Im pretty sure crossfire 6970's will be a lot stronger than intergrated GPU. Don't care for ssd caching either.
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post #27 of 91
Integrated Intel GPU is about as powerful as a mid ATI Radeon HD4xxx. Thus not that powerful.
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post #28 of 91
Most enthusiasts won't have much use for the Z68's new features. To use the onboard transcoding engine you have to connect to the video out on the motherboard which is limited to 1920x1200 resolution, definitely a no go for those that require higher resolutions. The SSD caching is not as elegant as I imagined. If you already have an SSD that's 80GB or larger then there isn't much benefit. I would just get a P67 and call it a day until the next chipset comes out.
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post #29 of 91
my only real point was this; by the time the current crop of P67 motherboards are back in stock and the manufacturers have shaken some of the bugs out, the Z68 chipset boards will also (likely) be released. The current crop does have a lot of problems, so if you don't need to upgrade right away, you might as well wait a month and see how things play out. Maybe the Z68 chipset will have some additional bug fixes or prove to be a more stable platform...

Of course if you're not in any rush, bulldozer will be following a short time after the Z68 chipset, and the socket 2011 enthusiast platform will be a short time after that, and then we'll be into 2012 .....
     
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post #30 of 91
Yeah, and you could just keep waiting and waiting for the next big thing. This way you'll never built a new system.

On the bulldozer: my biggest concern about it is that it'll only have one floating point unit per core, whilst SB have four of them. Floating point operations are becoming more and more popular, so it's quite a let down. But what do you want? AMD is always two steps behind Intel.
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