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Originally Posted by purpleannex;12788503 
So Intel have made overclocking as easy as AMD has for done for ages with all it's Black editions, welcome to the past wink.gif

Welcome to your "past" slow computer that can't pass 7 second Spi 1M on air, or even come remotely close.

Now go back to the AMD forums, troll.
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Originally Posted by skyform;12788451 
Would there be any difference between i7-2600 and i7-2600k if i wouldn't overclock? I did read on a forum that i7-2600 would be better than i7-2600k without overclocking but i forgot why, is that true?

Next thing how good is i7-960 compared to them but not gaming. On most forums people compare them for games but im not playing games, i need a new PC for my music studio and it would be really good to know which of this cpu's would be better for stuff like that.

I was reading many tests and from what i have seen the i7-960 is mostly better when it comes to using powerful programs and memory using. i7-960 seems to have an advantage in memory bandwidth.

With i7-960 and a x58 motherboard i could also use 24gb ram compared to 16gb with Sandy Bridge.

I really can't decide, on one side i would like the Sandy Bridge because it's brand new but on the another the X58 because of memory advantage and maybe even a cpu advantage for my needs.

I apologize if some stuff above sounds like nonsense or noob talk, but my computer knowledge is very limited.

I just hope that some one can help me to make my decision easier.

If someone said the 2600 is better than the 2600k, it's probably because they wanted vt-d virtualization, which the 2600k does not support, (only supports vt-x hardware virtualization).
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Originally Posted by 2010rig;12788548 
Ok ... makes sense, let me get back to you to see which route would be best. wink.gif

What's ur budget anyway?

My maximum budget for the cpu is the price of i7-960 or i7-2600k.

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Originally Posted by Bricked;12788544 
Now is a bad time to go with X58. Sandy Bridge performs much better at the same relative price point. 16GB of RAM should be more than enough to hold you over until a new socket arrives that allows triple channel memory to be used with newer 32nm fab chips.

Well im not going to buy a sandy Bridge based PC now and a new one in few months, that's crazy. I want to use my new setup for at least 2-3 years. When exactly are coming the new compoonents that you are talking about, maybe i can wait that long.

Oh sorry i noticed that you were talking about the new 8gb memory, but this are probably going to be very expensive.
Edited by skyform - 3/19/11 at 4:40am
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Originally Posted by skyform;12788592 
My maximum budget for the cpu is the price of i7-960 or i7-2600k.

Well im not going to buy a sandy Bridge based PC now and a new one in few months, that's crazy. I want to use my new setup for at least 2-3 years. When exactly are coming the new compoonents that you are talking about, maybe i can wait that long.

The reason he said that is because 95% of computers built around here are for gaming purposes. But more specifically it's because the X58 socket is pretty much dead, meaning there are no new processors coming out for it, and it's going to be replaced by Ivy Bridge late this year, or early next year. Also, Ivy Bridge will have 8 DIMM slots and will be Quad Channel, not Triple Channel, so that will give you a potential 64GB with 8 GB sticks.

You should be able to use your 16 GB ram to upgrade to that socket, and have 32GB by adding another 16GB, where as you won't be able to re-use your Triple Channel Ram if you go with X58 now.

I'm guessing you're going to be using the Platinum edition of EWQL?

And I'm asking for ur OVERALL budget for the system, because you can always make ur pagefile.sys to be at least 8 GB and that would give you 24 GB total as well, and put that pagefile on an SSD where your boot drive is.

In your case, an x58 may make sense, but like I just said, you can always work around it.
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Originally Posted by purpleannex;12788503 
So Intel have made overclocking as easy as AMD has for done for ages with all it's Black editions, welcome to the past wink.gif

Does it really make that happy to come to a thread, make an useless commentary when you clearly have no idea what are you talking about?

If you don't want to wait I would go with the 960. Triple channel may not represent that much of a difference right now, but it certainly will in the near future
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post #16 of 40
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Originally Posted by 2010rig;12788607 
The reason he said that is because 95% of computers built around here are for gaming purposes. But more specifically it's because the X58 socket is pretty much dead, meaning there are no new processors coming out for it, and it's going to be replaced by Ivy Bridge late this year, or early next year.

In your case, X58 may actually make sense.

I'm guessing you're going to be using the Platinum edition of EWQL?

Yes platinum and more, im already using them but my current PC is too limited and it's a pain to work like that.
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Yes platinum and more, im already using them but my current PC is too limited and it's a pain to work like that.

Gotcha, re-read my last post, I just updated it.

What kind of PC do you have now, can you re-use any parts? Or are you looking for everything brand new? I think that if you go SB now, with 16GB, and set up your pagefile to 8GB to match the 24 GB RAM you are looking for, is a definite option, and it gives you more of an upgrade path for the future, since you will most likely be able to re-use your RAM if you decide to upgrade to IVY Bridge down the line.
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If you don't want to wait I would go with the 960. Triple channel may not represent that much of a difference right now, but it certainly will in the near future

Triple Channel has no future, Ivy Bridge will be Quad Channel.
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Gotcha, re-read my last post, I just updated it.

What kind of PC do you have now, can you re-use any parts? Or are you looking for everything brand new? I think that if you go SB now, with 16GB, and set up your pagefile to 8GB to match the 24 GB RAM you are looking for, is a definite option, and it gives you more of an upgrade path for the future, since you will most likely be able to re-use your RAM if you decide to upgrade to IVY Bridge down the line.

Check this thread, i listed all the components in it.

http://www.overclock.net/power-supplies/968369-please-help-me-choose-power-supply.html

This setup would cost me around 900-1000€ without the monitor.

I really don't know if i can wait until Q4 for the Ivy Bridge but i guess it would be worth it.
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Check this thread, i listed all the components in it.

http://www.overclock.net/power-supplies/968369-please-help-me-choose-power-supply.html

This setup would cost me around 900-1000€ without the monitor.

I really don't know if i can wait until Q4 for the Ivy Bridge but i guess it would be worth it.

Cool, this is a rather interesting build...

I'm not suggesting you to wait for Ivy Bridge, you can always upgrade to that platform and sell your current Mobo + CPU for an IB MOBO + CPU, and Re-use your 16 GB RAM to get another 16 GB RAM if you needed it. Ivy Bridge will support up to 64 GB RAM with 8 x 8GB sticks.

Are you 100% certain that you won't be overclocking? In your case, you'd benefit from it, and it's really not that hard.

But if you're not going to overclock then you don't need a p67 motherboard, and you'd be better off with an H67 Mobo, and you won't need to buy a Graphics card.

Do you by any chance know how many threads the software uses? I'm wondering if it will take advantage of Hyper Threading or not. Because if it doesn't, then you can just get an I5-2500 + H67 MOBO, and use the money saved towards an SSD even if it's only 60GB for your Boot drive and Apps, and use the 8GB pagefile on the SSD.
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Cool, this is a rather interesting build...

I'm not suggesting you to wait for Ivy Bridge, you can always upgrade to that platform and sell your current Mobo + CPU for an IB MOBO + CPU, and Re-use your 16 GB RAM to get another 16 GB RAM if you needed it. Ivy Bridge will support up to 64 GB RAM with 8 x 8GB sticks.

Are you 100% certain that you won't be overclocking? In your case, you'd benefit from it, and it's really not that hard.

But if you're not going to overclock then you don't need a p67 motherboard, and you'd be better off with an H67 Mobo, and you won't need to buy a Graphics card.

Do you by any chance know how many threads the software uses? I'm wondering if it will take advantage of Hyper Threading or not. Because if it doesn't, then you can just get an I5-2500 + H67 MOBO, and use the money saved towards an SSD even if it's only 60GB for your Boot drive and Apps, and use the 8GB pagefile on the SSD.

Hmm now you made my decision even harder with the H67 which has a graphics card smile.gif Won't the mother board overheat then? Is it not better to stick with the P67 pro and the Radeon 5450 silent, it would stress the motherboard less i guess and i could overclock in the future if i want.

Yes the software supports hyper threading if you use the right DAW which i have. I won't get a SSD yet, they are too expensive but maybe in the future.
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