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Originally Posted by aznofazns View Post
I don't think he was trolling... no need to be aggressive.

Regardless, I think the EK Supreme HK Ni is still the best looking CPU block on the market. The Koolance looks pretty slick though.
I am not sure if you people are aware of the fact that the reputation of the EK Supreme HF Full Nickel and EK themselves has dropped so low that it should be called UK?

Seriously though, over the past weeks there have been so many RMA´s of the EK Nickel blocks especially the rev.2 Supreme HF Full Nickel because of a very poor quality plating.
And on top of that EK will not even admit the problem and accuses their costumers of self inflicted damage.

This kind of behavior speaks for it self.
But it certainly determines that this block can not be the King even so if it has the best temps if after a week those temps drop to the double because the block is full of blasted Nickel Plating than Cudos

The assets that really define a waterblocks class are only partially its performance.
To me the most important factors are the esthetics and the production values.
And if the blocks performance is only inferior to another by half a degree or less such as in the comparison we are doing EK vs 370 that haven´t even be fully proven and confirmed yet and could be negated by the change of a base plate.
These factors become more important even more!

I am very confident that the 370 will take the crown for best production and quality values.
Temps and flow will be determined by further tests but I am pretty sure that they will result in the 370´s favour with a change of baseplates...because the Supreme HF also has the chance to carry its best performing baseplate.

@Defoler:It is not a like a comparison between 6990 and 590 ..because here we already know the winner
Edited by Kung Pow - 3/19/11 at 1:18pm
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I'm not trolling. Are you trolling me?

You made the statement, "the EK full copper or nickel is the best temp wise."

I asked for proof that supports that statement. You have yet to provide any.

It seems you're the one who'd rather type out long-winded arguments rather than either 1.) provide evidence in support of your statement or 2.) admit that you were mistaken. I realize the latter may be hard for some people to do, and I apologize if I've somehow injured your pride.
There is no proof that the 370 gives better temps in a full review.
So:
1. EK is currently the best block
2. 370 has a good preview, but not a review.

I will let you do 1+2.

As I said, unless you have a proof otherwise, my statement sticks.


And to Kung Pow, if you don't like EK, its fine.
But performance isn't measured in customer likeness or looks.
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Honestly, there isn't much difference between Koolance 370, Switech Apogee XT rev 2, and EK Supreme HT. Rasa's block isn't far behind and cheaper to boot. Each block has it's strengths, it's just a matter of choosing the best one for YOUR loop.

Swiftech's block has the best mounting of the bunch, though Koolance isn't far behind. I still think the EK is best thermally with the least impact on flow (even with the most restrictive plate in), but it's not by much.

I agree with Defoler, until there are more scientific based tests (aka Skinee or Martinslab) without bias. We won't know how good any of these new blocks (Swiftech XT Rev 2/Koolance 370) really are. There are plenty of results for the EK though (hence why most people use them).

Kung Pow....please stop saying there is a problem with the EK nickel blocks within the last 2 weeks. I've not even seen any reports of it on forums for well over a week. If you want to continue, please provide posts showing you are right. It's pretty much like saying every Toyota Corolla has a bad accelerator pedal, even though that was only a "problem" for a specific model year.
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There is no proof that the 370 gives better temps in a full review.
So:
1. EK is currently the best block
2. 370 has a good preview, but not a review.

I will let you do 1+2.

As I said, unless you have a proof otherwise, my statement sticks.
You seemed to be saying definitively that the EK performs better than the CPU-370, which is what I was asking for proof of. The burden of proof is on you, for making the initial claim. Conversely, I have made no claim at all in regards to their relative performance.

You may say the EK is the best block, at least prior to the release of the CPU-370. This is accurate, from everything I've seen.

If you make the claim that the EK is better than the CPU-370 (which you have) there needs to be proof of that. As yet, there doesn't seem to be.
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Originally Posted by Defoler View Post
There is no proof that the 370 gives better temps in a full review.
So:
1. EK is currently the best block
2. 370 has a good preview, but not a review.

I will let you do 1+2.

As I said, unless you have a proof otherwise, my statement sticks.


And to Kung Pow, if you don't like EK, its fine.
But performance isn't measured in customer likeness or looks.

They're all so close, does it reeeaaaalllly matter? I think we all need to agree just to get a top tier block if you want great performance... not any specific one.

Also, not an ac fan but... http://skinneelabs.com/aquacomputer-cuplex-kryos-xt/4/
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Well we have a new thermal performance leader! The kryos XT with the thicker o-ring edged out the champion from Roundup #2, the EK Supreme HF P1
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Not to beat a dead horse at this point but, I would say most people who are willing to shell out the cash for a custom loop will buy the EK HF Supreme over most other block. The 370 looks very promising but until I see extensive testing via tim/flow/whatever else I will recommend EK over any other block if price is not an issue.

And really Kung stop saying that EK is aweful sucks etc.... The consumer is always right and the consumers are buying EK so I am inclined to say EK is still one of the top blocks. So unless you have an in with EK and you know for a fact that they negligently added crappy parts stop your *****ing and go on with your life.

And really if you are not water cooling on a budget the following link is where the real ek blocks are (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekwaekhffuch.html)
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Is it me or does the OP only post about the 370 pwnzors and nothing else?
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They're all so close, does it reeeaaaalllly matter? I think we all need to agree just to get a top tier block if you want great performance... not any specific one.
I agree with you. From a practical standpoint, all the top blocks are so close in terms of performance that it near as makes no difference. If you're in the market, put the top performers on your short list and then choose one based on some other criteria (build quality, looks, etc).
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Originally Posted by mobius9 View Post
They're all so close, does it reeeaaaalllly matter? I think we all need to agree just to get a top tier block if you want great performance... not any specific one.

Also, not an ac fan but... http://skinneelabs.com/aquacomputer-cuplex-kryos-xt/4/
I like this review, but I have a problem with it.
He got a replacement o-ring, which might or might not end up at the end-user hands. We don't know.

So its a bit unfair to say that the XT is better if you review something which isn't going to end up at the consumers.

Without that o-ring, the EK is still better than it
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i just realised the kung pow avatar!
great film "you may call me betty"
anyhoos i wait until reviews are out to see what the best block is,and i cant say it matters much as the best and worst probably only have a few degrees between them but huge price differences.
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