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I just finished a Q8300 at 3.6 6hrs largeFFT stable. It can do 3.8, never tried for more and didn't try to stabilize 3.8 since it's for a family member and FSB is very high at those clocks. I would be very surprised to see a Q8400@4.0 OCCT stable much less 4-6 hours of Prime Blend or large FFT.

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I'm just sayin....

Well yea, a lot of what your saying shows limitations of the motherboard though. Large FFT stresses the BUS and RAM. As I mention before, my motherboard and RAM are what are holding me back. I've yet to see someone get a P5Q Pro motherboard to run a Quad core at 500Mhz FSB. I might run a 8 hour small FFT to see how stable the CPU is while I'm at school, but of course a large blend is going to fail in a few seconds do mostly to my mobo.
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I turned SpeedStep or whatever it's called off, I was under the impression that the throttling could affect OCs due to the automated voltage etc. I'm folding 24/7 so it needs to be stable under 100% load and the extra MHz are a helpful.

@2th, do you have any suggestions on setting GTL voltages? Right now I'm at 475x8, and I'll obviously need to get 500 to hit 4GHz, I'm not sure that the vCore and vFSB alone will do the job to stabilize. Currently I run auto-GTL's.

@OP, More info on your OC would be helpful in terms of settings for those of us looking to get there.
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post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by SaltwaterCooled;12801099 
I turned SpeedStep or whatever it's called off, I was under the impression that the throttling could affect OCs due to the automated voltage etc. I'm folding 24/7 so it needs to be stable under 100% load and the extra MHz are a helpful.

@2th, do you have any suggestions on setting GTL voltages? Right now I'm at 475x8, and I'll obviously need to get 500 to hit 4GHz, I'm not sure that the vCore and vFSB alone will do the job to stabilize. Currently I run auto-GTL's.

@OP, More info on your OC would be helpful in terms of settings for those of us looking to get there.

Yea, okay... I guess people want this stuff in detail tongue.gif
Shoulda expected that.. my fault.
I'll see if I can get you some more stuff on it smile.gif
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Yea, okay... I guess people want this stuff in detail tongue.gif
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I'll see if I can get you some more stuff on it smile.gif

No problem, I'm not out to look for 'chops, I just am interested in getting mine to 4GHz and the air is pretty rarefied there with these chips; so having sample settings from other people that have done it is helpful to set guidelines for my attempts.
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The P5Q Pro is not able to be Prime95 Large FFT's (used to test max FSB/NB stability) much past 460FSB with a Quad. Due to it only having one CPU GTL setting.

P5Q-E, Deluxe and Premium have one more GTL setting, and many more GTL multipliers needed for stability past 460FSB with Quads. Like most of Gigabytes EP45 motherboards has.

Asus has crippled bios for all P45 motherboards below the P5Q-E. P5Q Pro and P5Q Pro Turbo only has this one CPU GTL setting, with only three GTL multipliers, giving few options and possibilities for stabilizing any Quad past 460FSB, in Prime95 Large FFT's
    
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Originally Posted by turrican9;12801292 
The P5Q Pro is not able to be Prime95 Large FFT's (used to test max FSB/NB stability) much past 460FSB with a Quad. Due to it only having one CPU GTL setting.

P5Q-E, Deluxe and Premium have one more GTL setting, and many more GTL multipliers needed for stability past 460FSB with Quads. Like most of Gigabytes EP45 motherboards has.

Asus has crippled bios for all P45 motherboards below the P5Q-E. P5Q Pro and P5Q Pro Turbo only has this one CPU GTL setting, with only three GTL multipliers, giving few options and possibilities for stabilizing any Quad past 460FSB, in Prime95 Large FFT's

Well thank you very much! That just reinforced some of my ideas, and explained the rest I didn't understand. Yea... I've been regretting not going with the Gigabyte ep45-ud3r5 for a while now haha.
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Well thank you very much! That just reinforced some of my ideas, and explained the rest I didn't understand. Yea... I've been regretting not going with the Gigabyte ep45-ud3r5 for a while now haha.

You could look for used, cheap motherboards. Like the ones in Gigabytes EP45 series. Or P5Q-E, Deluxe and Premium. If you find a very cheap one, it could be worth it. For 500FSB stable I think you need one of those EP45's. Asus ones you can expect between 475 to 500FSB stable.
    
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@2th, do you have any suggestions on setting GTL voltages? Right now I'm at 475x8, and I'll obviously need to get 500 to hit 4GHz, I'm not sure that the vCore and vFSB alone will do the job to stabilize. Currently I run auto-GTL's.

I'm kind of at a loss for the NVidia boards. I was trying today a little bit to get the E8400 in my sig stable at 4.5. Tried some trial-and-error with the GTL settings but honestly I'm going to have to do some research 'cuase I don't really know what the 4 lanes listed in BIOS are referring to. The Gigabyte boards are alot different.

Adding more VCore doesn't seem to help (1.38-1.4, no difference), adding VTT helped to a point. I can boot and run apps at 4.5/500FSB but OCCT fails within a few minutes.
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I'm kind of at a loss for the NVidia boards. I was trying today a little bit to get the E8400 in my sig stable at 4.5. Tried some trial-and-error with the GTL settings but honestly I'm going to have to do some research 'cuase I don't really know what the 4 lanes listed in BIOS are referring to. The Gigabyte boards are alot different.

Adding more VCore doesn't seem to help (1.38-1.4, no difference), adding VTT helped to a point. I can boot and run apps at 4.5/500FSB but OCCT fails within a few minutes.

Not sure if you've seen this or if it helps. Please let me know what you figure out, even if it's by PM. I added vTT and vCore and then changed the GTL0 and GTL1 since those were the only two the board was auto-adjusting and it immediately stabilized. I'll have to play around some more soon.
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Thanks for the link. I'm also looking this over:

http://www.overclock.net/3167191-post3.html

When I get the chance, I'm going to try that out on my E8400. Much different than a quad, but the same principals apply to getting the FSB/NB stable.

If you had a UD3 board we could probably have you at 4.0 easy if you can get 3.8 on an NVidia chipset...
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