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Let's get this strait. PULSE AUDIO SUCKS!!!!!! It doesn't support 5.1 on my desktop and it doesn't support the headphone jack on my laptop. ALSA is awesome but some distros like to screw up ALSA so that it can support Pulseaudio. *cough* Ubuntu 9.10 *cough*. Can the new Ubuntu 10.10 run without Pulseaudio? If not what is a decent distro that doesn't require a crap ton of initial config that works well with ALSA?
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http://jechem.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-on-ubuntu-1010.html

you can remove it and it will default to using alsa, or you can replace alsa/pulse with Oss4, i can't think of any distro's atm, that doesn't use pulse as a default and doesn't require a lot of configuration...

but the ones that will:

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Yea Arch requires that ALSA be configured for use with Pulseaudio, not configured for use without it.
    
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Strange, I have full 5.1/7.1 support with PulseAudio. Make sure you've actually selected the output in the sound preferences. (Right-click the volume control icon on the taskbar.)

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My soundcard doesn't come up at all for me in pulseaudio. The last time I tried to use pulse audio in conjunction with alsa, I woke up one day and my sound just didn't work. >.< Also that guide on removing pulse audio is a joke, I still cant hear crap and I've been screwing around with ALSA for over 5 hours now. Can someone please make sound in Linux not suck?

I installed ALSA 1.0.24 (Alsa's site says that it supports my Xonar DS) and now I can see my DS in alsa mixer. But no programs will output sound (not even aplay) and this is all confusing as hell. (been a while since I've messed with linux, probably because of the dodgy sound drivers, lol.)
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The way I understand PulseAudio is that if it doesn't work in PulseAudio... good luck getting it to work in ALSA. If you are really desperate... just turn off the PulseAudio process from the startup list... and there you will have ALSA (at least that is how my laptop is configured).

Also a big issue with using ALSA is that udev configures the devices in random order. If you have different sound devices, and usb audio devices like microphones and webcams, your sound might not work because card 0 might be held up by one of these devices. Even though it might detect your sound card... if it isn't "device 0", it won't play sound.

You gotta give us more details before we can diagnose the situation. For example, open up "alsamixer" in the terminal and show us the device list, the mixer for your sound card, etc (or you could just tell us).
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Originally Posted by sP00N;12797164 
I got it working. (Had to set the default device by name.) I can get sound, but upmixing stereo via alsamixer sounds horrible. >.<</div>

Ah, you have a Xonar. ***** at Creative, not us.
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My soundcard doesn't come up at all for me in pulseaudio. The last time I tried to use pulse audio in conjunction with alsa, I woke up one day and my sound just didn't work. >.< Also that guide on removing pulse audio is a joke, I still cant hear crap and I've been screwing around with ALSA for over 5 hours now. Can someone please make sound in Linux not suck?

I installed ALSA 1.0.24 (Alsa's site says that it supports my Xonar DS) and now I can see my DS in alsa mixer. But no programs will output sound (not even aplay) and this is all confusing as hell. (been a while since I've messed with linux, probably because of the dodgy sound drivers, lol.)

not sure what you expected from the guide? thought you wanted pulse removed, that guide shows how to remove.

ubuntu typically defaults to about 20% volume upon installation, could be why you aren't hearing anything?

as for you loosing of 5.1 its like error10 said, go set it up in sound preferences.

alsa aint much now days, i rarely think it gets updated. it was one of the reasons why the distro's started moving towards the use of pulse as plugin, alsa is seriously lacking in modernization, and oss4 i believe carries a non-gpl use license (correct me if i'm wrong, that just might be the initial binaries that were released.)

its also why kde developed phonon.

i do agree there needs to be a serious undertaking on the linux sound subsystem, as it is a complete mess right now...so as long as there is no "cooperation" between the distro's to get a new sound sub system,mediocrity will slip in till then.
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Strange, I have full 5.1/7.1 support with PulseAudio. Make sure you've actually selected the output in the sound preferences. (Right-click the volume control icon on the taskbar.)

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