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i have my i5, my 5770, and my 8600GTS on a 240 rad, top exhaust

i had it push pull for over a year, temps sitting at 55C under folding load

i just pulled my rad to check for dust, there was barely any

an idea came to mind, and i pulled the 2 pushing fans off, to leave it on pull with 2 fans

my temps dropped 2c? what the hell?

i kinda attribute it to my recent addition of a 1300RPM side air intake

but hell, i was wasting 2 slots on my fan controller all this time...

unless someone else has input as to why my load in folding dropped to 53C from 55C, its on the same unit, i shut down mid unit to save it as a test
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Myself, I would see 2C as being within the tolerence that defines the systems capability to measure. What I mean is a 55C reading really could be 57 or it could be 53.
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could very well be, but hey im not complaining

just seems wierd that the censor reads less, and now the air coming off my rad isnt even warm, its room temp when i put my hand over it

which obviously means that side intake is playing a factor, i had no fans at all besides the front 240 intake, which i deemed inadequate earlier today
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Did you do multiple tests? Or just a couple? Your internal temperature could have changed due to you removing the side of the case, and, removing the extra fans can produce higher airflow (believe it or not) as having two fans pushing air into a radiator, the cooler air can get forced out of the gaps as cooler air is less dense than hotter air. In my unprofessional opinion, I would suggest the purchase of shrouds (unless you already have them), and if you do have shrouds they'll force the air through the radiator instead of losing all that good cold air!

I'd say your internal temperature can drop 2 degrees just from having the side of the case open for a few minutes, it happens with my case.

Hope this helps!

Edit: Sorry this post didn't make sense after re-reading, I got side-tracked in between waffling. I was meant to say (see above)
Edited by Roxborough - 3/19/11 at 6:54pm
    
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Did you do multiple tests? Or just a couple? Your internal temperature could have changed due to you removing the side of the case, and, removing the extra fans can produce higher airflow (believe it or not) as having two fans pushing air into a radiator, the cooler air can get forced out of the gaps as cooler air is less dense than hotter air. In my unprofessional opinion, I would suggest the purchase of shrouds (unless you already have them), and if you do have shrouds I'd say your internal temperature can drop 2 degrees just from having the side of the case open for a few minutes, it happens with my case.

Hope this helps!
im not using any shrouds, i have inadequite space between top of mobo and the bottom fans if i mount push pull, which im no longer using, the airflow idea is a possibility, i allowed the pc to heat up ( 5 runs of IBT) then cool to idle temps, and then started folding up, i did it 2 or 3 times to make sure it wasnt my eyesight going o.o
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im not using any shrouds, i have inadequite space between top of mobo and the bottom fans if i mount push pull, which im no longer using, the airflow idea is a possibility, i allowed the pc to heat up ( 5 runs of IBT) then cool to idle temps, and then started folding up, i did it 2 or 3 times to make sure it wasnt my eyesight going o.o
You can get really thin grommet esque shrouds that don't really require that much space.

You should see what I did with my H50, I couldn't find screws big enough to go through the fans to the radiator... So I mounted the shrouds onto the radiator using motherboard mounting screws lol, then screwing the fan screws into the mounting screws, totally mental.

Anyway, I literally think this is what's happened, I can't see it being anything else, other than what the other dude said about the temperature readings (insert other dudes name here).

I do Building Surveying at university, just finished 2 modules on ventilation, and it has really helped with my understanding of cooling etc...

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My only thought on this is... You were using the same fans to push and pull right.. Im gussing you where..
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My only thought on this is... You were using the same fans to push and pull right.. Im gussing you where..
the answer is yes, i rely on my CM R4s

and yes i know thier the wrong bearing type and yada yada yada....

but this set was going long before my WC setup, and they all still hit 2050RPM just fine...

my rad also got quieter when i removed the 2 push fans...i have the 2 fans at full speed in pull and dont even hear them...with 4 it was like windtunnel effect...
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interesting... maybe you had a pull-pull setup
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interesting... maybe you had a pull-pull setup
the answer is no... i know that for sure
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600 EVGA Z77 Stinger ITX Sapphire R9 380X 16GB Mushkin Blackline 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Seagate Barracuda 1TB Seagate Barracuda 1TB 2x Cougar Vortex V12-HP pwm Fans Intel Stock Cooler 
OSPowerCase
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit Corsair HX750 Deepcool S12 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 3570 Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe ITX XFX Radeon 6850 Refrerence AMD Radeon 6670 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16GB Kingston HyperX Black DDR3 WD Blue 320GB Dell 1155 Intel HSF (modded) windows 10 Pro 64 bit 
PowerCase
EVGA 500B Deepcool S12 
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