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Well I'm tired of spending $800 - $1000 on upgrades to my PC every two years just to get slighted by game developers, and I am sure a lot of you are too.

I have an idea. Let Nvidia and ATI begin financing the development of new games or let them suffer dwindling sales by having enthusiasts not upgrade our video cards. I mean, why the hell do we spend all this money on hardware when there is nobody left that even gives a crap about what is played on it?
It's really your choice in the end, you can still play majority of pc games with mid range gpus and since most games aren't optimized for quad cores, etc.... a mid range dual core OC'd would suffice

Not really sure the purpose of this thread, we've known about Crytek's position on piracy for a while now. Maybe its just me, but, I can't blame them. Personally, I would hate to make a game then have it pirated
    
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Not really sure the purpose of this thread, we've known about Crytek's position on piracy for a while now. Maybe its just me, but, I can't blame them. Personally, I would hate to make a game then have it pirated
Agreed. They put a lot of time and money into making the game. If you want to play the game, buy it. If you don't then don't buy it. From their point of view if nobody buys their game then they will either have to lower the price or make better games. However, if they see a lot of people pirating their game then they just feel cheated and probably angry, which is understandable. If we want good games on the PC then piracy is just counter productive.
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I'm fully supportive towards a Steam/EA Store based gaming. You need to authenticate through the network your serial code in order to play. No auth>No game.

Once the game's been authed you can play singleplayer, but every time you connect to the net, it will re-check the code integrity.


It's a pita, but if that stops the piracy, so be it.
   
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highly agree about the graphics card talk. the only point of purchasing a high end card is to game at 2560x1600. if u game any lower than that, you don't need GTX 580 or HD 6970. high-mid range (GTX 570, HD 6950) is the highest u want to go if you play the few demanding games there are (crysis, metro). otherwise if you game at 1080p/1200p like most gamers, GTX 560 and HD 6870 is plenty for most console-ports.

the high end cards are only for use in multi-monitor when they can actually show their full power. resolutions such as 5760x1080 or higher.
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And this is why the two of you aren't regarded as highly by PC gamers as, say, Gabe Newell.

Cevat, Peter, ignore the pirates. You aren't going to stop them. They're just as prevalent on consoles and they're not going to be converted. So what you need to do is make good games and be content that they sell well. Kinda like what Gabe does.
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A big reason many are PC gamers is because they can pirate.
Rather than spending $60 on a new SP game PC players can just download it for free.

If somebody drops $60 are you going to walk past it or pick it up and keep it?
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highly agree about the graphics card talk. the only point of purchasing a high end card is to game at 2560x1600. if u game any lower than that, you don't need GTX 580 or HD 6970. high-mid range (GTX 570, HD 6950) is the highest u want to go if you play the few demanding games there are (crysis, metro). otherwise if you game at 1080p/1200p like most gamers, GTX 560 and HD 6870 is plenty for most console-ports.

the high end cards are only for use in multi-monitor when they can actually show their full power. resolutions such as 5760x1080 or higher.
In your opinion.

And that's what it completely is. I have yet to see a card that can do over 60fps in every single game on the market at all times @ 1080/1200p. And thus I do not consider getting a high end card for those resolutions a waste. I'm getting a gtx 590 if I can get my hands on one and I play @ 1200p.
 
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^ ok i suppose you are a fan of crysis (like I am, hence overkill graphics set up below for 1080p imo) or metro 2033.
otherwise, for almost all other games on market, anything higher than a 560 is not necessary.
and in my opinion, 45 fps is smoothly playable. 50 fps is comfortable and 60 is just butter smooth.
high-end cards are not a waste! of course not! but i'm making point that they are not necessary to max out most games.
of course if u want to enable super high MSAA or even turn on SSAA, you would need those GPUs.
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And because we can't compete with valves/blizzard and other true devs because they are a bunch of good guys that work because they love it and are talented and still own us with 5 years old games ...
hahahah epic
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I'm fully supportive towards a Steam/EA Store based gaming. You need to authenticate through the network your serial code in order to play. No auth>No game.

Once the game's been authed you can play singleplayer, but every time you connect to the net, it will re-check the code integrity.


It's a pita, but if that stops the piracy, so be it.
That's the best form of DRM, imho. To play online, you need to be online, so an online check is perfect. However, for SP no online check should ever be initiated and never should an SP game need to be always online. Ever.
    
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