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the SC cards are just to milk money outta you
That's what i was thinking
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I just don't believe that there is no difference between cards. You think they just pick out random ones and say "Set and label these GTX580's @ 772Mhz and those @ 850Mhz FTW"? It would be bad business to trick and deceive customers to pay out more money for the same product. Plus I would think there would be class action lawsuits if anyone could prove it.
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I just don't believe that there is no difference between cards. You think they just pick out random ones and say "Set and label these GTX580's @ 772Mhz and those @ 850Mhz FTW"? It would be bad business to trick and deceive customers to pay out more money for the same product. Plus I would think there would be class action lawsuits if anyone could prove it.
impossible to prove
but binning simply isn't done anymore at evga....
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I just don't believe that there is no difference between cards. You think they just pick out random ones and say "Set and label these GTX580's @ 772Mhz and those @ 850Mhz FTW"? It would be bad business to trick and deceive customers to pay out more money for the same product. Plus I would think there would be class action lawsuits if anyone could prove it.
You can choose to believe what you want. The link I provided has a post that came straight from someone who actually works for EVGA.

In the past, especially with the G80 chip, they *had* to bin them as there was a lot of variation between chips. Some ran hot and needed a lot of voltage to stay stable. Others ran relatively cool and overclocked like hell. Nowadays, the current chips do not necessitate this process anymore as the manufacturing processes have gone through considerable refinement over the years.

You have to take into consideration that the difference between the SC and stock speeds is not that great - just a mere 65MHz. Most "vanilla" cards can achieve SC speeds without even needing the slightest bump in voltage. Really, the main selling point for the SC model is that it is guaranteeing the buyer a card that is overclocked faster than the vanilla variant.

For people who choose not to overclock themselves, this is valuable and worth the extra cost. Everyone else can opt to save a few bucks and do it themselves. No harm, no foul. EVGA does not care if you overclock so long as you don't do any physical modifications and damage the card. If it dies due to software overclocking, EVGA will *still* replace your card for you under warranty!

However, EVGA is not guaranteeing you a better/binned chip by any means. There is absolutely nowhere on any of their labels or literature at all that that state they are even offering anything like that, nor are they forcing you to buy only the SC model against your own will. Thus, there is no grounds for any sort of ridiculous lawsuit.

Now if your SC card broke, you RMA'd it, and got back a vanilla card, THEN you may have something, but even then EVGA is a stand up company and will make things right with you anyway - so the point is moot. All they would owe you is a working card that functions at SC speeds - no more, no less.

Anyone who has been overclocking long enough should know that with all the infinite variables that come into play, there is no possible way that any company can guarantee you any part overclocks a single MHz past stock. Would you sue Intel if your i7 920 could not get from 2.66GHz to 2.67GHz? They did guarantee you a working chip at 2.66GHz did they not?

Sorry but I think computer parts these days are just WAY too easy to overclock, and I think we are all starting to become a little jaded by it.
     
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my question is why EVGA? Lifetime warranty on a card you wont own in 3 years anyways?
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I also think it's retarded that EVGA charges you $20 to overclock the GTX 580 25MHz.

New age SC cards are not binned and therefore are not worth the premium.
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my question is why EVGA? Lifetime warranty on a card you wont own in 3 years anyways?
I pass my card down to family members and sometimes close friends. So at least it does help them (and me to an extent) should anything happen further down the line.
     
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I think you guys are going a little off topic. I got my question answered and i would like to thank everyone who helped, but i don't see a reason to keep this thread going. You could make a new thread and post your thoughts on binning ect...
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EVGA doesn't bin their cards, they just increase the volts and slap a "super awesome incredible overclocked" sticker on it. Not worth the money.
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