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post #21 of 108
hm interesting... and when looking at the life belt at the peer it doesnt look like there is tessellation involved o_O
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It's nothing special

1. The 'Xenos' GPU inside the console is powered by ATI's first ever tessellation unit. We're on the 6th generation ATI tessellator now ( 6900 Series ) so I can imagine that overall tessellation performance on Xenos would be quite poor.

2. It's a technology demo that only uses simple shaders and textures, No on screen activity and little to no background activity. Overall it looked like a game from 3-4 years ago.

3. Tessellation meshes eat memory, So I would expect anything remotely complex to be a big rarity due to the 512mb memory X-box 360 has, This would also leave less memory in real games for shaders, textures and other game assets.

4. In console terms it still doesn't give 360 any advantage over Playstation 3 as the SPU's in Cell would completely out tessellate 360's GPU.

5. Now whether or not this pays off for us PC gamers remains to be seen
post #23 of 108
Its OK.
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post #24 of 108
Amazing But yea today's coding for Xbox think about it 5 years on the same hardware they have been pushing it to the limit now.

Feel bad for game dev students going into this field and will have to go through their code over and over again to optimize their games.
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post #25 of 108
Megaobjects/megameshes are good for environments, but do nothing for gameplay. Still, looks very nice. Even though I'd rather see work on a new console at this point, any tech like this being done for the 360 will likely transfer over in some way to the next console.

EDIT: Wait, the OP says 360, but the videos say 720. So which is it?

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Originally Posted by 98uk View Post
That is hugely impressive for an Xbox! Goes to show how unoptimised PC GPU's/engines are!
PC game engines cannot ever be that optimized, because they're not on fixed hardware. Unless a PC developer releases a game that only runs on a single model of CPU, GPU, motherboard, sound card, HDD, operating system, PSU, keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc. This is the heart of the reason that developers usually like making console games over PC games. It takes less time, less money, and is more optimized and predictable (fewer bugs and crashes).
Edited by lordikon - 3/20/11 at 7:24am
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post #26 of 108
Still though one day or another they have got to hit the ceiling on DVD 5/9 space limits. Compression and optimizations can only take you so far.
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post #27 of 108
And in the games they'll be shooting for a solid 30FPS lol
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It looks amazing.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5entinel View Post
Still looks blurry, but an amazing achievement!
thats one of the things that smooths out objects and make em look less hard polygon
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This is why I like consoles to exists because they actually need to optimize and develop new tech for low end constrained hardware, it means our high end systems run this stuff 10x as fast in the future.
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