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post #1 of 7
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Diagnosing a buddies computer, PSU went out. New PSU installed. Still couldnt get power, would just power for a moment before shutting back off. Dissembled everything, put everything back together piece by piece. Able to get fans and everything to stay on when just the motherboard and procecssor in there, but get the same results when we plug in the top 140mm fan, or the 4870 toxic. Will power on without the card in but onboard video isnt working either. With the PCI slot not working (dont think its the video card) and the onboard I am leaning towards a motherboard failure. But wanted opinions before we run to frys.

Thanks ahead of time

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post #2 of 7
make sure the ram is all the way it.


That happens if my ram is slightly dislodged from the slot.

If that doesn't work, start trying to test parts individually, to narrow down what is the problem part.
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post #3 of 7
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tried each stick of ram individually, will give us the same power either way. Just starts doing the problem with the video card is in, which would lead me to a faulty card except the onboard video isnt working either. Which leads me to a faulty motherboard
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post #4 of 7
Try unplugging the CPU power connector, then booting
See what happens. It obviously won't get past POST though.
post #5 of 7
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we dont even know if its getting to post, no video sources are giving us a feed. What do you mean by boosting?
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post #6 of 7
Did you make sure to enable the onboard video in the bios?

That happened to me once, made me feel like an idiot.
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post #7 of 7
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well, put in a new motherboard in, and new ram and still have the same issue....
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