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[NYTimes] Humans’ First Use of Fire May Not Be So Long Ago

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Fire, scientists agree, helped give rise to a successful, thriving human population by providing heat for cooking and protection from the cold.

But they don’t agree exactly when humans began using fire. Some researchers argue that it occurred more than a million years ago when early humans made their way to Europe from Africa, and others say it happened much later. Now, a new study argues that humans did not master fire until about 400,000 years ago.
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Yet there are sites older than 400,000 years in Europe that indicate the presence of humans, with the oldest, in Spain, more than a million years old. This means that despite Europe’s extreme winter climates, early humans found a way to survive without the warmth of a fire.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/science/15obfire.html
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congrats to those guys 400,000+ years ago i guess.
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Has anyone here at OC actually had success starting a fire without any modern day device/material? I can't imagine how difficult it's got to be.
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What do you mean?

A flint and steel is (relatively) easy with enough preparation. However, that requires a couple rocks which arent common most places..

Throw me in the woods here and I am out of luck (Unless I can scavenge an empty bic or something of course)


Starting a fire without any metal is something I have always wanted to do, and I may at some point this summer. I like the outdoors..
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I have tried (unsuccessfully) to use the bow method without any "artificial" tinder. One of the hardest parts of fire is the tinder, not the method of generating the ember. I must say, it's pretty painstaking and cool though.
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Body Heat.
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Originally Posted by damian5000;12803993 
Has anyone here at OC actually had success starting a fire without any modern day device/material? I can't imagine how difficult it's got to be.
Yea, I have.
There are various methods, some easier then others.

I think the easiest method is finding some natural flint, and using the back edge of a knife. Of course, it depends on what you mean by modern day device tongue.gif

Another method is having a wooden board with like a bowel in it, with a wooden rod that fits, and a small opening one one side of the bowel where your fire starter would be. Then you just put the rod in the bowel, and just twist it until it creates a spark, lands on the fire starter, and start a fire.
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post #8 of 83

I imagine it would have been like this

Edited by iliatay - 3/20/11 at 2:21pm
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Intense body heat. Looks like those old cartoon cavemen movies and shows were misleading .
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Guys... the universe is only 6 thousand years old... I mean come on.

I kid I kid I kid
Edited by Chimeracaust - 3/20/11 at 2:58pm
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