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So, I have a crappy HP Pavilion Slimline s3420f. I wasn't much of a computer gamer when I bought it, and it worked great for what I was doing back then. I've learned a lot about buying pre-built systems since then, and intend to eventually build my own, but until then I'm stuck with this pc and some minor upgrades that I'm planning in the next couple of weeks. My system currently has a ASUS M2N61-AR (Acacia-GL6E) motherboard, a AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 5400+ CPU, 4GB of ram (533 MHz DDR2?), a NVidia GeForce 6150LE nForce 430 graphics card, a 160w PSU, integrated sound, and Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit. I am upgrading the graphics card to a Sapphire Radeon HD 4650 low-profile ready card (I also looked at the GeForce 9800 GT low-profile, but the reliability and dependability reviews are not good on this card). I am also upgrading my PSU to 300w, might be overboard, but its cheap, and to Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. Still much cheaper than a new pre-built pc or a custom build, which I can't currently afford anyways. I have become hooked on TES Oblivion, The Sims, etc, and I'm tired of the slow and glitchy performance I currently get. My CPU currently runs at 2.8 MHz. Is it possible for me to overclock to at least 3.0 on this system, and what do I need to do it right. If you can point me in the right direction, I'd really appreciate it. It sure beats trying to search through thousands of posts for the one's that I need. Thank you.
Crappy PC:)
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 64x2 5400+ ASUS M2N61-AR (Acacia - GL6E) Sapphire Radeon HD 4650 4GB 
Power
300W 
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Crappy PC:)
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Athlon 64x2 5400+ ASUS M2N61-AR (Acacia - GL6E) Sapphire Radeon HD 4650 4GB 
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300W 
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as far as my knowledge goes all you can do on that computer would be to get a new gpu. You can't overclock it because HP locks the BIOS so you cant make any sort of changes to it other than the basic date and time, etc.

can you post links to the hardware you are planning on getting? that wasy we can further help you choose something for this pc.
My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 8350 Asus Crosshair V Formula EVGA GTX 770 SC ACX 8Gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor M5S 128Gb(OS) Plextor M5S 256Gb(RAID0) Plextor M5S 256Gb(RAID0) Western Digital Cavair Green 2Tb 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ASUS 24x DVD RW Corsair H80i Windows 7 64-bit LG 24MP56HQ-P IPS 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster B2230 Corsair K70 Corsair TX650 V2 Cooler Master CM Storm Trooper 
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Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Panasonic 500w stereo 
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FX 8350 Asus Crosshair V Formula EVGA GTX 770 SC ACX 8Gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor M5S 128Gb(OS) Plextor M5S 256Gb(RAID0) Plextor M5S 256Gb(RAID0) Western Digital Cavair Green 2Tb 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ASUS 24x DVD RW Corsair H80i Windows 7 64-bit LG 24MP56HQ-P IPS 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster B2230 Corsair K70 Corsair TX650 V2 Cooler Master CM Storm Trooper 
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Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Panasonic 500w stereo 
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4650 Might be a stretch for a 300w PS. The 4650's I looked at require a minimum 400W PS.

From my experience with HP, they have the bios locked so overclocking is not possible on most of them. Well, at least the ones I have dealt with.

The upgrade to 7 would be a plus, but I'm biased on that because I hated vista.

Hope this helps.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K ASUS P8P67 Pro Radeon HD6950 2GB 16 GB CORSAIR Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial M4 128GB WD Caviar Black 1TB SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner  XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win 7 Pro 64 Bit Gateway FHD2303L Gateway FHD2303L Steelseries 6GV2 
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Corsair HX750 Corsair 800D Steelseries XAI Laser Klipsch Promedia 2.1 
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i5 2500K ASUS P8P67 Pro Radeon HD6950 2GB 16 GB CORSAIR Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial M4 128GB WD Caviar Black 1TB SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner  XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win 7 Pro 64 Bit Gateway FHD2303L Gateway FHD2303L Steelseries 6GV2 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair HX750 Corsair 800D Steelseries XAI Laser Klipsch Promedia 2.1 
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First off, what PSU are you planning on getting? Some PSUs are more reliable than others, and I don't want to see you drop money on a PSU that will die in 6 months. I may be a good idea to buy a PSU that provides a little more power, too. Even though you won't be needing that extra power for your current computer (obviously), if you decide to build your own system in the future you can re-use the PSU. May I suggest something along the lines of this?

Second, I recommend you look into a new case. HP pre-built cases are very poor quality, and buying a new case (something as cheap as the CM Elite 430 or NZXT Gamma) will really help increase airflow, increase your selection of components (so you don't have to use low-profile cards) and can be reused when you build your own system.

Thirdly, I think you should reconsider buying that 9800 GT over the 4650. The 9800 GT is a much more powerful card. Just look at the performance difference in this review (benchmarks start on page 6).

Sadly, I do not think you can overclock with your current motherboard, as pre-built manufacturers usually lock all of the BIOS settings. Also, I do not recommend looking into buying a new motherboard, as AM2 and AM2+ is dead.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-4670K Asus Maximus VI Impact EVGA GTX 680 SuperClocked G.Skill Trident X Series 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 840 Pro Western Digital Black (WD4001FZEX) Seagate Barracuda (ST2000DM001) Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell UltraSharp (U2412M) Ducky Shine II (DK9008S2) SeaSonic Platinum (1000w) CaseLabs Mercury S3 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Razer Scarab KRK Rokit G2 (RP6G2) Logitech C920 HD Pro Webcam 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H ATI Radeon HD 4200 (Onboard) 2GB Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 1333Mhz 
Optical DriveOSPowerCase
LITE-ON 24X iHAS424-9 Windows 7 Ultimate x32 Antec BP550 Plus Rosewill R101-P-BK 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-4670K Asus Maximus VI Impact EVGA GTX 680 SuperClocked G.Skill Trident X Series 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 840 Pro Western Digital Black (WD4001FZEX) Seagate Barracuda (ST2000DM001) Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell UltraSharp (U2412M) Ducky Shine II (DK9008S2) SeaSonic Platinum (1000w) CaseLabs Mercury S3 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Razer Scarab KRK Rokit G2 (RP6G2) Logitech C920 HD Pro Webcam 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H ATI Radeon HD 4200 (Onboard) 2GB Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 1333Mhz 
Optical DriveOSPowerCase
LITE-ON 24X iHAS424-9 Windows 7 Ultimate x32 Antec BP550 Plus Rosewill R101-P-BK 
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post #5 of 5
this psu is $47/27ar
XIGMATEK ACXTNRP-PC502 500W, 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817815008

tough to beat for a cheap psu
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