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Yes? But drivers can also reconfigure fan profiles, GPU clock speeds and how much voltage is being put through a GPU.


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Yeah. Clearly, the drivers have the GPU clocks set too high that it's cooking both itself and the CPU!

AMD should release a driver fix soon which clamps the GPU clock at 2d values to prevent this from happening again!

Edited by Kand - 3/21/11 at 3:56pm
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on topic, the new update indeed fixes the issue. I was able to replicate the problem with photobooth/yes loop and now it doesnt crash.

loaded at 87C.
 
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on topic, the new update indeed fixes the issue. I was able to replicate the problem with photobooth/yes loop and now it doesnt crash.

loaded at 87C.
Impossible! You can't fix a hardware problem with a software update!
Oh, wait...


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Yes? But drivers can also reconfigure fan profiles, GPU clock speeds and how much voltage is being put through a GPU.
Read again. Then try that statement one more time.
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You do realise that would reduce the heat MASSIVELY? It is the stupidly small heatsink they used that is the culprit.
Yes, but the GPUs aren't even reaching max yet...
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Originally Posted by Magariz View Post
Just like the iPhone 4 reception issues were software too right? LOL! Who would guess that inadequate cooling was the culprit here.
Not comparable. I still hold the opinion that yes, it was a software issue. Dropping from five bars to one is what built up all the hype, not the fact that it ends up losing about 20 dBm when you hold it (without a case). If that "software issue" wasn't there, this would've been a much smaller incident, if noticed at all.

>>>>>>

At least it looks likes its fixed...
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It's funny (and sad) because it's true. They spend at least $1.2k or even more to JUST surf the web or go YouTube and type essays. Guess what? A 400 to 600 dollar laptop can do all that too. Surpass surprise. The people I see are better off getting a cheap $400 laptop and donating the rest to charity.

My english teacher had trouble with a PC last week since she's a hardcore Mac: she didn't know how to play a movie from a DVD in Windows and asked for help. That situation called for a facedesk, not facepalm haha.
Oh geez...
Haha,thats so sad,it's funny.
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More proof from people in their forums that it's the heat:

http://discussions.apple.com/message...19904#13219904

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1120543

It happens to some and not to others, I think it may be due to the GLOBS of thermal paste as seen on the test model some reviewers got. There must be one troll applying too much paste in the factory where it's produced, leading to inconsistencies. I bet if you were to rip apart the Macbooks of people without problems vs with (there is about a 50/50 split: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1121819) you would see a major difference in TIM.
Apple has indeed using too much TIM, they must think "Hey, if we put more of this stuff on the chips,it MUST work better!" Not to mention the insufficient form over function unibody case & cooling that is supposed to keep a quad core and a radeon at acceptable temps.
Edited by Heavy MG - 3/21/11 at 8:49pm
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I wonder if its GPU separation / solder issues... ROHS is killing hardware, Save the planet by making us BUY more computers.. yea good call ROHS. Switch back to lead and no more hardware issues.
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I wonder if its GPU separation / solder issues... ROHS is killing hardware, Save the planet by making us BUY more computers.. yea good call ROHS. Switch back to lead and no more hardware issues.
I agree,throwing more things away is about as bad for landfills as having electronics that contain lead. Computers/electronics that contained lead lasted for YEARS,now you're lucky if it'll last 2-4 years.
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Impossible! You can't fix a hardware problem with a software update!
Oh, wait...




Read again. Then try that statement one more time.
So what you're saying is that a software update cant change:
-clock speeds
-voltage
-fan speeds

Please don't be so ignorant. I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS OR IS NOT A SOFTWARE ISSUE, I am simply stating that your argument/logic is flawed.

I also have a question for you: You have been on this website for ~6 months now and you've never once seen an example of software influencing temperatures? I'm not trying to flame you, in fact you may be right (but you're argument is not!)

On topic (but not serious):
This is in the HARDWARE section, so obviously not AMD driers



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Not comparable. I still hold the opinion that yes, it was a software issue. Dropping from five bars to one is what built up all the hype, not the fact that it ends up losing about 20 dBm when you hold it (without a case). If that "software issue" wasn't there, this would've been a much smaller incident, if noticed at all.)
Personally, I was more upset with his "you're doing it wrong" statement But I do agree that that was a much bigger deal than it needed to be
Edited by Farfnarkle - 3/21/11 at 10:42pm
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Anything with rumors in the name of a website just doesn't do it for me in terms of news.
Then you miss out on a lot of early info. The best "rumors" sites don't just post something they read on a forum, they have industry contacts who the mine for tidbits and try and put together the different pieces of information from company contact, manufacturing contacts, etc. A lot of big news has been broken on rumor sites first.
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Personally, I was more upset with his "you're doing it wrong" statement But I do agree that that was a much bigger deal than it needed to be
Hahaha, I never understood why people took such offense to that. I laughed so much when I heard he'd said that, rofl.
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