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Because Intel integrated graphics are "just as good"? LOL!

Yeah - almost as good as the old Oak VGA I had in my 486 like, fifteen years ago - oh, except without the high performance of the mighty Oak.

I just think Apple has resorted to issuing some of the nastiest, cheap, low quality hardware imaginable - but without the nasty, cheap low quality pricing of the Chinese knockoffs. Like their cheezy keyboards that went from mushy to "hey, I can see all of the springs under the shift keys", the Might Mouse that works for a few weeks then caves because of dirt, nasty, inferior dithered screens, USB ports that are underpowered, and so on - all for premium money to run their bloated OS that is 95% eye candy and less than 1% meat...

Apple has had these "design issues" before, and their fixes have been some patches to the "fan controls" - rather than any substantial improvements to the actual product. And they always love to blame "graphics drivers", like what, graphics are something new to computers? devil.gif
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Don't blame ATI for Apple's bad cooling hardware.
Nothing to do with Apple. It's drivers.
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Nothing to do with Apple. It's drivers.
Yeah. Clearly, the drivers have the GPU clocks set too high that it's cooking both itself and the CPU!

AMD should release a driver fix soon which clamps the GPU clock at 2d values to prevent this from happening again!
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Dell SXPS 1645 (I have it) had a throttling problem, but it worked. Dell engineers were actively communicating with the xps community to fix the problem. Of course, apple won’t do this... But it looks like a bios update is in order to fix throttling (this will prevent lockups), then a new power brick because it probably isn’t getting enough watts, and a cooling upgrade is in order. Wait didn’t the duo core i7 have an overheating issue? LOL, oh silly apple when are you people going to learn that those unibody cases aren’t any good for new technology. I mean sure you can run C2D's all day long but that is so five years ago...
    
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http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...-teardown.html

Remember this thread?



I think that tiny heatsink made for a dual core and G310 has something to do with it since it's now got the task of cooling a quad core and a Radeon.

It's probably one or the other hitting TJmax.
could be thermal pads. at my shop we have fixed over heating laptops, you know the kind with class action suits by replacing thermal pads with with copper.
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AMD should release a driver fix soon
Traditionally, Apple writes their own drivers for all hardware. I am not sure whether or not this is the case with this piece of hardware, but it would be a safe assumption.
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http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...-teardown.html

Remember this thread?

I think that tiny heatsink made for a dual core and G310 has something to do with it since it's now got the task of cooling a quad core and a Radeon.

It's probably one or the other hitting TJmax.
Yup. That's probably as good a guess as any. Laptops have a hard time cooling themselves as it is and Apple's unibody coupled with a quad-core CPU and a radeon GPU is a recipe for overheating.
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Traditionally, Apple writes their own drivers for all hardware. I am not sure whether or not this is the case with this piece of hardware, but it would be a safe assumption.
Read my entire post. lulz.

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could be thermal pads. at my shop we have fixed over heating laptops, you know the kind with class action suits by replacing thermal pads with with copper.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBo...eardown/4990/1

Not sure I see any thermal pads in that particular teardown.
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Yeah. Clearly, the drivers have the GPU clocks set too high that it's cooking both itself and the CPU!

AMD should release a driver fix soon which clamps the GPU clock at 2d values to prevent this from happening again!
Heat isn't an issue. Both the GPU and CPU can handle 103C temps which neither are reaching. It's a kernel panic which means drivers; that are written by ATI of course.

It's funny hearing all the people trying to bash Apple.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 3/21/11 at 7:50am
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if drivers were perfect, there would never be any updates--windows or OSX.

Not a big deal imo. If i could get a dollar for every computer on overclock.net that crashes due to drivers. So much for pro building skills!


My macbook has not yet crashed, but then again I dont game on it too much.
 
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