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Having gotten my feet wet with ubuntu, I have decided to cut to the chase and dual boot gentoo on my siggy. I have alreayd set aside a 100GB exFAT partition for gentoo, and have burned an iso of the x64 live cd, and am currently printing out the handbook. is there anything else I should know before I dive in?
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um yeah, don't...

there is nothing that says your linux expierence has to be enjoyable...but to purposely make it gut wrenchingly bad...

for most, the next logical step after ubuntu is arch linux...gentoo is just difficult for no other reason than to be so...

what exactly is it you expect or want to get out of this new experience?
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um yeah, don't...

there is nothing that says your linux expierence has to be enjoyable...but to purposely make it gut wrenchingly bad...

for most, the next logical step after ubuntu is arch linux...gentoo is just difficult for no other reason than to be so...

what exactly is it you expect or want to get out of this new experience?
its mostly just for messing around. I am currently using win7 x64 for serious business. I just want a rather blank slate to work with this time around, and I am also determined to force myself to become proficient in Terminal commands. I have someone who can program and has worked a lot with linux helping me, he just has yet to work with Gentoo.
as for my experience with linux, it has been difficult yet rewarding
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its mostly just for messing around. I am currently using win7 x64 for serious business. I just want a rather blank slate to work with this time around, and I am also determined to force myself to become proficient in Terminal commands. I have someone who can program and has worked a lot with linux helping me, he just has yet to work with Gentoo.
as for my experience with linux, it has been difficult yet rewarding
gentoo is well, gentoo...

i know my expeirences with it are not universal...but i do consider my self well versed in linux talk, man pages, terminal, and even programming, and i always found a way to screw up a gentoo install in a matter of hours. i actually found slackware with is lack of dependency checking, easier than gentoo...

terminal is really just something that is learned thru general use...

i do hope your experience with gentoo is a positive one, and that you can take something useful from it

i can offer one piece of advice, double, triple, quadruple, then have a friend do the same for the first few weeks of use, when you do any sort of updates or installing programs and you have to alter the "USE FLAGS", as that where most of my problems always happened...they are very tricky to get a good handle on, and using the wrong flag...can boink the entire system really quick.
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gentoo is well, gentoo...

i know my expeirences with it are not universal...but i do consider my self well versed in linux talk, man pages, terminal, and even programming, and i always found a way to screw up a gentoo install in a matter of hours. i actually found slackware with is lack of dependency checking, easier than gentoo...

terminal is really just something that is learned thru general use...

i do hope your experience with gentoo is a positive one, and that you can take something useful from it

i can offer one piece of advice, double, triple, quadruple, then have a friend do the same for the first few weeks of use, when you do any sort of updates or installing programs and you have to alter the "USE FLAGS", as that where most of my problems always happened...they are very tricky to get a good handle on, and using the wrong flag...can boink the entire system really quick.
thanks. I will be very, very careful.
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I would say also make sure to do a good install... I always use a livecd to install that way i have everything setup through the livecd like knoppix or systemrescuecd. I then make sure to research my hardware to the T and the flags entailed in that thus I can utilize the best and most efficent solution to help make the onstalling beyond the base system quicker.

The make.conf file is key but one other thing is correctly installing xorg..again make sure you have the correct use flags as stated by others in earlier posts!

I suggest you use only latest stable install of things for your first couple of months to a year, the unstable ~archs are very risque and are prone to breaking packages...

If you are just going to do the most simple way of install, which is clone the latest stable minimalistic install of a generic arch build, I suggest the most important setup on completition of the install at the end, after you have finished configuring /etc/make.conf you need to do a emerge -e world or even a emerge -avuDN world in order to do a stage 2 install which will custom recompile all installed and required packages to your specific hardware/use flags! thus make it more responsive and well more gentoo, because that is what gentoo is all about! Creating the most optimized operating system and applications to have that 5-10% performance boost over other distros!

Good luck with your install and if you need any help please PM me!
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I was kind of thinking about trying Gentoo just for the hell of it. How's the end result compare to Arch in terms of speed an general user experience etc? Arch is the quickest I've used yet but I always wonder if you get that extra little bit with the more difficult gentoo.
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Going from Ubuntu to Gentoo is like cruising in the go-kart and deciding to move to a drag racer. Not exactly recommended. I would second the suggestion for Arch. The documentation is excellent and the user community is great. Once you have a little bit of that under your belt, then maybe move on to more challenges. At least learn to compile a kernel first before jumping into the deep end, cause the linux elitists aren't very tolerant of noobs in that club. Not trying to discourage you, but I have a couple years with linux 24/7 now, and I still wouldn't try gentoo yet, I just haven't got the chops yet Now maybe Sabayon.........
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I'm fairly positive exFAT support as of now is iffy at best. There's no reason you'd want to use it over a stable journaling filesystem.

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I was kind of thinking about trying Gentoo just for the hell of it. How's the end result compare to Arch in terms of speed an general user experience etc? Arch is the quickest I've used yet but I always wonder if you get that extra little bit with the more difficult gentoo.
Install Arch and only use ABS...basically gives you gentoo.
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Install Arch and only use ABS...basically gives you gentoo.
Is there an easy way to get pacman to do that by default? Using custom CFLAGS?
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