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So, all in all, my mobo is the fail one?
So is the power supply. Overclocking should never be attempted with a cheap PSU. That's why most experienced overclockers have high quality PSUs.


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No one told me what's the absolute temp wall with this CPU. The hottest i've ran it on prime was 69°c, and on SCII (details on high, can't run higher with my sorry 9400 GT) it ran at 64°c. Being too used to my old, sub-60°c temps on 100% load, this is worrying me a bit, especially since i plan to BOINC.
Roughly 80°C if you have the B2 stepping, and 90°C if you have the G0.

So, which one do you have? (CPU-Z calls it the "Revision")


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TwoCables: I've got an Antec TP-750 i can try on it, will do it once i get home.
That's a good power supply! (I am jealous)

It's major overkill on power capacity, but at least it's built for overclocking!


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Jump3r: i get no BSOD at all. i ran 12 hrs in small FFT, then 12 hrs in blend in prime95, no errors whatsoever. The only thing i'm worried are the high temps, tho i've got that covered once my new HS arrives.
Wow, nice stress test results.


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Crabid: all volts are on AUTO for now. I've noticed the CPU is actually using less power than before (using 1.28v on this mobo, but used 1.30 on my old P5VD2-VM SE, it was also on auto and i couldn't modify it, it was at stock speed too). Also, the only thing i can lock from the RAM are the timings, because the speed is tied to the FSB. But i'll try locking all the timings.

2thAche: I've attached a 40mm fan to the NB heatsink, since it's big enough (if i had the time to get my hands dirty atm i'd attach two, it's so big) and i can look for some spare heatsinks to put on those MOSFETs to make a ghetto mod. But will that be enough? Or do i still need a fan on the ehatsinks on the MOSFETs?

Thanks for all the help, +rep
Using a vCore of Auto is a limiting factor too.
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Heatsinks will help. And some air across there if your case has room for say a door fan.
Just dug a couple heatsinks from my graveyard. Will attach tomorrow.

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So is the power supply. Overclocking should never be attempted with a cheap PSU. That's why most experienced overclockers have high quality PSUs.
Why'd you think i got that Antec PSU? (besides of the cheap as hell price as i bought from a fellow OCN member, lol)

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Roughly 80°C if you have the B2 stepping, and 90°C if you have the G0.

So, which one do you have? (CPU-Z calls it the "Revision")
I have the B2 stepping. So, even if 80°c are my limit, anything above 60°c scares me. Plus, gets noisy as hell, as the fan kicks on 100%. Not as noisy as my Dynatron 7k RPM heatsink+fan combo, i almost had to use noise protection gear for that

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Wow, nice stress test results.
I know, right? i thought i'd blew the processor with the temps. That, or my RAM, running it as tight as it is.

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Using a vCore of Auto is a limiting factor too.
I just boosted Vcore manually to 1.32v, the stock volts. I'm afraid to boost it more or try more aggresive overclocking for now as i'm still on the stock cooler. But i see two other options to raise volts besides Vcore and memory: CPU VTT and NB Volt. I can assume NB volt will raise the power on my northbridge, but what's the VTT? What good does it have to raise it? It's still on AUTO tho, at least till i find what does it do
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Just dug a couple heatsinks from my graveyard. Will attach tomorrow.
What do you have for heatsinks (and thermal paste)?


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Why'd you think i got that Antec PSU? (besides of the cheap as hell price as i bought from a fellow OCN member, lol)
Ooo, nice!


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I have the B2 stepping. So, even if 80°c are my limit, anything above 60°c scares me. Plus, gets noisy as hell, as the fan kicks on 100%. Not as noisy as my Dynatron 7k RPM heatsink+fan combo, i almost had to use noise protection gear for that
The only real danger of going over a temperature like 60°C is instability. The real worry would (and should) begin if you were to start going over roughly 70°C. However, even reaching 80°C would be ok just as long as it's not for long periods of time y'know?


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I know, right? i thought i'd blew the processor with the temps. That, or my RAM, running it as tight as it is.
Nah, those temps are safe.

If you want to be sure about the memory, then you can touch the memory with your fingers (ground yourself first for the safety of your system) to see if it's too hot; if it feels like it would burn you if you touched the memory too long, then it's probably a bit too warm. If it feels hot but not hot enough to burn you, then it's definitely safe.


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I just boosted Vcore manually to 1.32v, the stock volts. I'm afraid to boost it more or try more aggresive overclocking for now as i'm still on the stock cooler.
Yeah, I guess you're right since it might not even be worth the effort until you have better heat dissipation.


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But i see two other options to raise volts besides Vcore and memory: CPU VTT and NB Volt. I can assume NB volt will raise the power on my northbridge, but what's the VTT? What good does it have to raise it? It's still on AUTO tho, at least till i find what does it do
VTT is for the FSB. The acronym "VTT" means "Voltage Termination". Although, I don't know why they didn't just name it "FSB Voltage".

Anyway, raising the CPU VTT can help tremendously since it's the FSB clock that you're increasing in order to raise the CPU's clock speed.
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What do you have for heatsinks (and thermal paste)?
I've got some aluminum heatsinks from old mobos and other stuff (i've got a small computer morgue here). My thermal paste consist of some Evercool Sidewinder, which is the best i can get over here, tho it's better than nothing.

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The only real danger of going over a temperature like 60°C is instability. The real worry would (and should) begin if you were to start going over roughly 70°C. However, even reaching 80°C would be ok just as long as it's not for long periods of time y'know?
Oh
My ambient temps also suck, average is 28-32°c. I barely go to 65°c, even when playing, while my idle/light load (just surfing the web and listening to music) is ~52c. Only prime tops my CPU to almost 70°c. Tho, for now, nothing too strenuous till my cooler arrives

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Nah, those temps are safe.

If you want to be sure about the memory, then you can touch the memory with your fingers (ground yourself first for the safety of your system) to see if it's too hot; if it feels like it would burn you if you touched the memory too long, then it's probably a bit too warm. If it feels hot but not hot enough to burn you, then it's definitely safe.
Thanks for the tip :O

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VTT is for the FSB. The acronym "VTT" means "Voltage Termination". Although, I don't know why they didn't just name it "FSB Voltage".

Anyway, raising the CPU VTT can help tremendously since it's the FSB clock that you're increasing in order to raise the CPU's clock speed.
So, would i still need to raise the NB voltage if i can raise the FSB voltage? Or do those two go hand in hand? I'm a tad newb in OCing with modded volts, i've always stuck with going as far as it can go on stock volts, mainly because my first overclockers were Northwood P4's on stock coolers which were hot enough to place a grill and make some grilled meat
Also, what would i need to cool down to raise this voltage?

Also, thank you so much for all this help, this is my first CPU overclocking in like 3 years, so i've got to dust off and update my knowledge xD
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I've got some aluminum heatsinks from old mobos and other stuff (i've got a small computer morgue here). My thermal paste consist of some Evercool Sidewinder, which is the best i can get over here, tho it's better than nothing.
Oh yeah, that'll work fine with the Thermalright Ultima 90. However, will you be attaching a fan to it? We're going to need a push/pull fan setup to maximize the heat dissipation due to the hot ambient temp you have. :/


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Oh
My ambient temps also suck, average is 28-32°c. I barely go to 65°c, even when playing, while my idle/light load (just surfing the web and listening to music) is ~52c. Only prime tops my CPU to almost 70°c. Tho, for now, nothing too strenuous till my cooler arrives


Thanks for the tip :O
You're welcome!


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So, would i still need to raise the NB voltage if i can raise the FSB voltage? Or do those two go hand in hand?
I can't remember. However, I think that they're more or less separate from each other (unrelated, etc.).


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I'm a tad newb in OCing with modded volts, i've always stuck with going as far as it can go on stock volts, mainly because my first overclockers were Northwood P4's on stock coolers which were hot enough to place a grill and make some grilled meat
Also, what would i need to cool down to raise this voltage?
Definitely the CPU's cores. However, it also helps to keep the northbridge cool as well (that's why some boards have ridiculous northbridge cooling).


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Also, thank you so much for all this help, this is my first CPU overclocking in like 3 years, so i've got to dust off and update my knowledge xD
You're very welcome! I'm just sorry that my knowledge is rusty and dusty too.
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Oh yeah, that'll work fine with the Thermalright Ultima 90. However, will you be attaching a fan to it? We're going to need a push/pull fan setup to maximize the heat dissipation due to the hot ambient temp you have. :/
Yes, i'll be using one Arctic Cooling F9 PWM fan on it. Do i really need two fans tho?
And yea, high ambient temps = tropic. Sucks to be an overclocker in the tropic :/

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I can't remember. However, I think that they're more or less separate from each other (unrelated, etc.)
Well, nothing a bit of Googling can't solve

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Definitely the CPU's cores. However, it also helps to keep the northbridge cool as well (that's why some boards have ridiculous northbridge cooling).
True that. The HS on the northbridge is almost double the width of the chip itself, and almost as high. I'm seeing how can i attach 2 40mm fans to it to maximize cooling

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You're very welcome! I'm just sorry that my knowledge is rusty and dusty too.
Better than mine anyway
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Yes, i'll be using one Arctic Cooling F9 PWM fan on it. Do i really need two fans tho?
And yea, high ambient temps = tropic. Sucks to be an overclocker in the tropic :/
Well y'know, let's wait and see just in case it's fine.


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Well, nothing a bit of Googling can't solve
lol amen


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True that. The HS on the northbridge is almost double the width of the chip itself, and almost as high. I'm seeing how can i attach 2 40mm fans to it to maximize cooling


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